Some DPS questions

[Viridiana]

1) Ironically, summoner has the least to do, pet management is simple minded in this game.

2) Again, only summoner can do this, they have the least amount of skill. you can fit into a single hot bar. All other dps classes required 2 to 3. Usually 2.5 or it becomes too much of a cluster

What? Bio2, Miasma, Bio, Contagion (manually activate or you're doing it wrong), Fester, Rouse, Spur, Enkindle, Shadowflare. That's pretty much a full bar already, and I know I'm leaving stuff out.

Versus Fire, Fire 2, Fire 3, Flare, Blizzard, Blizzard 3, Thunder, Thunder 3. BLM wins the "fewest skills required on the hotbar" contest hands down.

[ZephyrZ]

What? Bio2, Miasma, Bio, Contagion (manually activate or you're doing it wrong), Fester, Rouse, Spur, Enkindle, Shadowflare. That's pretty much a full bar already, and I know I'm leaving stuff out.

Versus Fire, Fire 2, Fire 3, Flare, Blizzard, Blizzard 3, Thunder, Thunder 3. BLM wins the "fewest skills required on the hotbar" contest hands down.

Cry more please. I didn't even mention blm, yet you got defensive about summoners LOL. He said he didn't want a complicated class like summoner, well he doesn't have to worry, summoner is one of the easier classes to play, especially if he puts his pet on sic. Won't make him the best summoner out there but it will get him started, plus it has the added benefit of being able to queue as scholar for leveling purposes compared to other dps classes.

Neither class can actually fit all their skills onto a single hot bar, they both have around 16-18 skills (blm & smn) not counting cross class skills. So do you want a cookie for getting offended because i called your class easy? The simple fact of the matter is, blm has a lot more positioning to do and usually has to handle mechanics in fcob which requires a lot of moving so it is harder for them to optimize dps than a summoner who drops dots and has everything else on insta cast like a bard.

Technically speaking tho, if you have anything less than 2.5 - 4 bars for any class, healer, dps, tank, i think you're doing something wrong because potions, foods, etc should alone take up half a bar.

Let's not forget that summoner isn't as highly wanted as a blm in raid content currently, no one really cares about the raise when they have declining dps and limited dps time compared to a blm with a limitless mana pool. Personally i have no preference on either, a caster is a caster to me but summoner is a lot easy to play and very user friendly because of insta casts.

[alsims2007]

Cry more please. I didn't even mention blm, yet you got defensive about summoners LOL.

I think your getting too defensive. I didn't read what he/she wrote as crying.

They are correct though, place, obey, return, I dont know a smn that isn't pushing 2-3 bars (and are actually good). Blm on the other hand does have the fewest currently. Ask any blm amd they will tell you the rotation is braindead simple.
Also there is (currently)never a reason to use a smn pet on anything but obey. The basic attack is stronger than all the other abilities the pet has.

You seem to have a vendetta against smn but alot of the things you mentioned are exaggerated if not completely incorrect.

Anyway OP. Brd/blm are what your looking for. Expansion is getting closer and it seems like an added complexity is being added to all dps classes, so this information may not be as relevant then

[Sniper68]

There's alot going on right now in my life, still love gaming, just have a little less cognitive abilities to donate to a game..lol Now pride does at times come into play with me, and as in most games ive played i am never a weak link and often a strong link. So instead of forcing myself onto a group and not give 100% of myself as a tank or healer, I figured id try DPS since in most games (and again dont be offended) DPS is easier. When i say easier, i don't mean less important. But if your healer sucks, tank probably dies and then everyone dies.. If tank dies (not becuase of healer) everyone probably dies. BUT if DPS dies or DPS sucks, the raid or dungeon or match or game or whatever you want to call it will simply take longer UNLESS there is a raid im not aware of in FFXIV that is on a timer of some sort.

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[Sniper68]

Id rather be a average or above average DPS (maybe even good) instead of a below average healer/tank. As much as my time is valuable to me, I respect others time and not everyone wants to wipe and restart over and over..

you mistaken my simple minded attitude for laziness. I simply want to play a game. Im a little tired of working in a game. It might only last a few months maybe even just weeks but for now I'd like DPS since it tends to play less of a impact on group survival.

In ending, i never said i want to stand still and hit 1 or 2 skills but i simply want a class that has a pretty set rotation and that doesn't have to also keep an eye on pets or on healing or tanking or anything other then the enemy. Yes i'll move, yes i'll kite, yes i'll communicate if im in a teamspeak channel or in chat if thats what it takes but i want to be responsible for me and my target... if possible.



thanks guys

[Viridiana]

So do you want a cookie for getting offended because i called your class easy?

Man, that's a hefty assumption, considering that SMN is nowhere near my main. Neither is BLM. But I do make it a point to be familiar with all the DPS classes and their current theorycraft. Just because I'm saying you're wrong doesn't make me defensive.