Some DPS questions

[Sniper68]

I'm fairly new to the game and been playing only healer and crafting over the past 3-4 weeks and I realized i just need a "break" from having a job..lol (no pun intended). Been gaming a long time and tend to do the healer/tank thing and I just want to hit some s**t hard.

These are my criteria:

1) The least amount of things to worry about so no pets or summons or anything like that.

2) The smallest hotbar possible.. If i can fit all my skills on one bar that be great, if not then 2 at most. (and still be super effective).

3) I kinda like the look of heavy's but I don't think there are any heavy's that are DPS? I looked and i think the only class might have some heavy looking gear is dragoon and that use a melee?

PS.. I just feel like i want to log in, not worry about healing, tanking or any other responsibility other then maxing DPS and staying alive and especially not hurting the team in anyway.

thanks

[ZephyrZ]

1) Ironically, summoner has the least to do, pet management is simple minded in this game.

2) Again, only summoner can do this, they have the least amount of skill. you can fit into a single hot bar. All other dps classes required 2 to 3. Usually 2.5 or it becomes too much of a cluster

3) DPS use light or medium armor, however there is shared disciple of war armor that can be used on any DoW and makes it look like a heavy. I think you have the wrong idea of a dps role. Glamor system.

Mechanic wise it's Healers > DPS > Tanks; in most content the DPS are responsible to handle mechanics and not tanks. Maximizing dps is a lot easier said than done.

[Viridiana]

1) Ironically, summoner has the least to do, pet management is simple minded in this game.

2) Again, only summoner can do this, they have the least amount of skill. you can fit into a single hot bar. All other dps classes required 2 to 3. Usually 2.5 or it becomes too much of a cluster

What? Bio2, Miasma, Bio, Contagion (manually activate or you're doing it wrong), Fester, Rouse, Spur, Enkindle, Shadowflare. That's pretty much a full bar already, and I know I'm leaving stuff out.

Versus Fire, Fire 2, Fire 3, Flare, Blizzard, Blizzard 3, Thunder, Thunder 3. BLM wins the "fewest skills required on the hotbar" contest hands down.

[ZephyrZ]

What? Bio2, Miasma, Bio, Contagion (manually activate or you're doing it wrong), Fester, Rouse, Spur, Enkindle, Shadowflare. That's pretty much a full bar already, and I know I'm leaving stuff out.

Versus Fire, Fire 2, Fire 3, Flare, Blizzard, Blizzard 3, Thunder, Thunder 3. BLM wins the "fewest skills required on the hotbar" contest hands down.

Cry more please. I didn't even mention blm, yet you got defensive about summoners LOL. He said he didn't want a complicated class like summoner, well he doesn't have to worry, summoner is one of the easier classes to play, especially if he puts his pet on sic. Won't make him the best summoner out there but it will get him started, plus it has the added benefit of being able to queue as scholar for leveling purposes compared to other dps classes.

Neither class can actually fit all their skills onto a single hot bar, they both have around 16-18 skills (blm & smn) not counting cross class skills. So do you want a cookie for getting offended because i called your class easy? The simple fact of the matter is, blm has a lot more positioning to do and usually has to handle mechanics in fcob which requires a lot of moving so it is harder for them to optimize dps than a summoner who drops dots and has everything else on insta cast like a bard.

Technically speaking tho, if you have anything less than 2.5 - 4 bars for any class, healer, dps, tank, i think you're doing something wrong because potions, foods, etc should alone take up half a bar.

Let's not forget that summoner isn't as highly wanted as a blm in raid content currently, no one really cares about the raise when they have declining dps and limited dps time compared to a blm with a limitless mana pool. Personally i have no preference on either, a caster is a caster to me but summoner is a lot easy to play and very user friendly because of insta casts.

[alsims2007]

Cry more please. I didn't even mention blm, yet you got defensive about summoners LOL.

I think your getting too defensive. I didn't read what he/she wrote as crying.

They are correct though, place, obey, return, I dont know a smn that isn't pushing 2-3 bars (and are actually good). Blm on the other hand does have the fewest currently. Ask any blm amd they will tell you the rotation is braindead simple.
Also there is (currently)never a reason to use a smn pet on anything but obey. The basic attack is stronger than all the other abilities the pet has.

You seem to have a vendetta against smn but alot of the things you mentioned are exaggerated if not completely incorrect.

Anyway OP. Brd/blm are what your looking for. Expansion is getting closer and it seems like an added complexity is being added to all dps classes, so this information may not be as relevant then

[Sniper68]

There's alot going on right now in my life, still love gaming, just have a little less cognitive abilities to donate to a game..lol Now pride does at times come into play with me, and as in most games ive played i am never a weak link and often a strong link. So instead of forcing myself onto a group and not give 100% of myself as a tank or healer, I figured id try DPS since in most games (and again dont be offended) DPS is easier. When i say easier, i don't mean less important. But if your healer sucks, tank probably dies and then everyone dies.. If tank dies (not becuase of healer) everyone probably dies. BUT if DPS dies or DPS sucks, the raid or dungeon or match or game or whatever you want to call it will simply take longer UNLESS there is a raid im not aware of in FFXIV that is on a timer of some sort.

continues...

[Sniper68]

Id rather be a average or above average DPS (maybe even good) instead of a below average healer/tank. As much as my time is valuable to me, I respect others time and not everyone wants to wipe and restart over and over..

you mistaken my simple minded attitude for laziness. I simply want to play a game. Im a little tired of working in a game. It might only last a few months maybe even just weeks but for now I'd like DPS since it tends to play less of a impact on group survival.

In ending, i never said i want to stand still and hit 1 or 2 skills but i simply want a class that has a pretty set rotation and that doesn't have to also keep an eye on pets or on healing or tanking or anything other then the enemy. Yes i'll move, yes i'll kite, yes i'll communicate if im in a teamspeak channel or in chat if thats what it takes but i want to be responsible for me and my target... if possible.



thanks guys

[Viridiana]

So do you want a cookie for getting offended because i called your class easy?

Man, that's a hefty assumption, considering that SMN is nowhere near my main. Neither is BLM. But I do make it a point to be familiar with all the DPS classes and their current theorycraft. Just because I'm saying you're wrong doesn't make me defensive.

[Havenchild]

1) Ironically, summoner has the least to do, pet management is simple minded in this game.

2) Again, only summoner can do this, they have the least amount of skill. you can fit into a single hot bar. All other dps classes required 2 to 3. Usually 2.5 or it becomes too much of a cluster

OP, don't listen to this nonsense. SMN is one of the hardest classes to play competitively (lots of things to micromanage) and it also has the largest hotkey set of consistent skill usage only rivaled by WAR and possibly Eos SCH.

[Jollyy5]

Dragoons have a lot of skills and they do a lot of Off Global Cooldown skill weaving (using skills that have no global cooldown between skills that do), so in that regard, it might not be for you.

Monks have a few skills less, but to maximize your damage you need to constantly move back and forth to hit the target on their flanks and on their back, and dropping that Greased Lightning makes any decent Monk die a little inside.

Ninjas have about the same amount of skills as Monks, but they have Mudras to deal with, which can be very frustrating if your latency is anything above 80ms, but on the plus side you don't need to worry about positionals (yet).

As for casters, I agree with what Zephyr said about Summoners, and I don't have much experience on Black Mages.