Dungeons, what we have, what I would like

[Felis]

Can we have please dungeons with this paths design again?

Old Nanawa Mine


Mun-Tuy-Cellars



It can be subterrain open-world dungeons again, with FATE bosses that drop keys for the chests there (would need the gold medal from the FATE to get a chance for the key drop. Maybe double chance than Atma?). Also with Aetherite for leves, of course ^^

[Chambers]

The great thing about those dungeons were also the worst things about those dungeons. They were loooooooong.

Also:

While it might be fun the first time (or the few first times) it gets boring very quickly.

[Yzuna]

The great thing about those dungeons were also the worst things about those dungeons. They were loooooooong.

Also to quote you:

They were, but you didn't had to clear them all in once.
Sometimes to had to go there retrieve an item for a quest, sometimes to get/do another kind of quest. Or to do a particuliar boss that might drop something you want.
The upside of those kind of dungeons, instanced or not, is that clearing it wasn't a requirement to actually get something. Sure if you find friends who, like you, had 5-6 hours to spend in there to clear it entirely, you could. But it wasn't considered a failure to just do a couple of quest, wings and/or bosses and call it a day.
And, since it was actually challenging, that you had to be carefull, prepare yourself, communicate with your fellow group members, and that it has a lots of things to do, it was rarely boring. Or at least, not for a while.

FFXIV dungeons are boring, mostly because it's straightforward, easy and repetitive.

I actually had more fun in MMO where death was (kind of) punishing. Because you don't want to die, you do everything you can to avoid that. Prepare yourself, communicate even if you know the content. In FFXIV, you don't care at all about dying. Who eats food in FFXIV ? Not a lot of players I bet. Is it because it's useless ? No it gives you a nice boost. But because no-one cares about dying and retry. In FFXI, foods was almost mandatory for mid-lvl/HL content. Because you didn't want to die and loose 2k XP.

[Warlyx]

Who eats food in FFXIV ? Not a lot of players I bet. Is it because it's useless ? No it gives you a nice boost. But because no-one cares about dying and retry. In FFXI, foods was almost mandatory for mid-lvl/HL content. Because you didn't want to die and loose 2k XP.

outside raids no1 , other than low lvl food for 3% exp boost :P

i would love traps , and bosses that arent put in a random CIRCLE again , tired of fighting in "arenas"

[Yzuna]

i would love traps , and bosses that arent put in a random CIRCLE again , tired of fighting in "arenas"

Would love that too. And/or stuff like puzzle, puzzle jumps would be fun to have too. (maybe not in instanced stuff, because doing them over and over again would not be fun.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Can we have please dungeons with this paths design again?

Old Nanawa Mine


Mun-Tuy-Cellars



It can be subterrain open-world dungeons again, with FATE bosses that drop keys for the chests there (would need the gold medal from the FATE to get a chance for the key drop. Maybe double chance than Atma?). Also with Aetherite for leves, of course ^^

Ew, that looks boring beyond belief. I can see where the "every place looks the same" came from when 1.0 had its issues listed.

[Elim]

I get they want to "discourage" speedruns in dungeons, but maybe they can go about it in another way. Having gates every one or two packs of mobs, in all honesty, makes the dungeon feel dull. All the new dungeons are more or less the same. Maybe use the gates in one or two of the new dungeons but not all of them. I'm sure the team can come up with something else.

One problem I have with gates is they make ilvs completely pointless. You could go into any of the new dungeons in ilv70 and be fine because you take on very little mobs at a time. Another is they're repetitive and they make all the dungeons feel the same. If we say... had to pick up wood, rope, etc and "build" our own bridge a few times it would have been more interesting. But every dungeon is pretty much just...get to the gate, kill the mobs, gate drops... They could also make trash mobs hard. Not extremely hard, but hard enough that you CANNOT pull more than one pack at a time...or something. I really, really liked tam tara HM, and was hoping the same amount of creativity would be utilized.

[NovaLevossida]

I'd like to see them take a page out of FFXI's book and have much tougher normal mobs. Does anyone care what the regular mob is you're fighting? They all die so quickly, especially when AoEs are involved. Give us fewer mobs but make them tougher, almost like minibosses. Make me pay attention to what I'm doing because of actual risk.

And while they're at it, they could really stand to make the enemies more distinctive from each other. It feels like most of them just might as well be palette swaps for all the lack of a difference in how you engage them. The only thing that comes even close is the marborol enemies. There's nothing remotely as threatening as fighting a mandragora in XI who could AoE sleep your healer if they were too close, goblins using Bomb Toss early, and there's certainly nothing as exciting and dangerous as exping in Ifrit's Cauldron as a Beastmaster.

[h0tNstilettos]

I read somewhere recently where Yoshi replied to a question where someone had asked about this very thing. Yoshi said that they would love to do larger dungeons with more to it, less linear, more bosses, etc, but it isn't possible with the rate they release content. There just isn't enough time between patches to do so, and he said he thinks players would prefer content released at a frequent rate rather than a longer wait between patches, so they would stick to how dungeons and raids are currently done for the time being.

Yoshi and them also once said there are many things they would like to do, but cannot do until they drop PS3 support. The PS3 already has trouble handling the game. They were going to drop PS3 support by the first expansion, but apparently they decided to keep supporting it through Heavensward.

[Riepah]

I support any kind of more challenging small group content. I enjoy small groups a lot more than 8 man content to begin with, the fact that it's currently too easy and the rewards aren't anything exciting is the biggest drawback to small group content, so I'd love to see that addressed.