Wait a minute...is this a plot-hole (Austerities of Wind and Main Scenario-related)?

[WyrahFhurrst]

I don't recall the time period for the Summoners original existence, but it was likely while the ability to summon the primals was sealed at Silvertear Falls. I think this is the only seal you can put on them, that they can't be properly summoned, but their calmer, smaller representatives can. So, having the big manifestation trapped and locked in the Ultima Weapon/Silvertear Falls doesn't seem to keep the less willful versions from manifesting.

Summoners were created by the Allagans, so the Third Astral Era. And I'm not sure there ever was a "seal" on the Falls, just that when the Agrius exploded it released a great amount of aether into the world. Without enough aether to summon a primal, no Egi would have been summoned, because one must defeat a primal in the first place in order to summon an Egi.

[Anonymoose]

One does not simply mess around for 15k+ years and not have a long term goal in mind. <...> Oh and Nebriales failed because he went off script.

The millenia in the making Ascian agenda doesn't seem very specific (so far). Chaos - Rejoining - Zodiark. That's not a plan, that's a goal. It's more like guidelines, really. Their manipulation is intricate, don't get me wrong, but they tend to just show up and exploit pre-existing tension until discord erupts into chaos. The closest thing to forethought we've seen is Lahabrea hiding the Heart of Sabik in the Ultima Weapon, and we now know that Lahabrea cannot be 100% trusted to be on Team Ascian Council in the first place. Not only is he working closely with Elidibus (who claims not to technically be our enemy and, unlike the others, just wants this planet back on the "right track," the same sentiment expressed by Lahabrea in the Praetorium), but he's so obsessed with primals and merging their power with man that even Elidibus thinks its overshadowing his loyalty to Zodiark.

I'm very suspicious of this whole "put the world back on the right path" thing, too. Only the two suspected Ascian rogues (Lahabrea / Elidibus) have made that claim. Nabriales only spoke of wanting to return everything to perfect Darkness, and that doesn't sound like what Elidibus and Lahabrea had in mind (unless, of course, we're just being manipulated again. Because ... Ascians.) I suspect plans within plans, schemes within schemes. You ever notice that every time an Ascian says anything other than, "Hey, Lahabrea's right!" he steps in and redirects the conversation towards what is obviously the best course of action?