Sealant - am I missing something?

**Quesse** · 05-18-2015 10:45 PM

I finally almost have Supras for all my DoH classes and was starting to plan for getting my 2nd Master Books. In preparation I have gotten GSM desynth to 100 which funded all the demimateria for my Supras and LTW desynth is at 90 so far which is about a wash for generating FCIII. (spend 60k on 10 gaiters get 2 FCIII (maybe), they are 34k at MB so???)

And last but not least, I just hit Ixal Sworn yesterday after a month+ of hit or miss dailies - I don't play too consistently. In the process of getting to Sworn I ended up with 24 Moonstones and exactly 70 Oaknots. Wow 70!

I have melded HQ militia offhands for most classes and some NQ Artisan.My goal was to make my own HQ Artisan tools for all classes plus my DoL could use them too.

You can see where this is going.

I go to check the recipes. 6 Sealants each. Sealants are 8 oaknots each. I just spent 56 oaknots on one Artisan offhand ATTEMPT. I need 10. *does some math* Ok that's like 560 Oaknots which at 8 per day is 70 days of dailies!!?!?!? (or 3,000,000 gil at MB prices)

Just feeling a little depressed right now.

**DarkDedede** · 05-18-2015 11:26 PM

Yeah, I've found that "doing the math," for anything grind related, does usually result in some slight depression.

You might just have to consider purchasing some, if not all, of the seals from the market. I'm going to assume that your goal is to make the tools yourself (so buying them isn't an option), and I'm also going to assume that you able to save up 3 million in less than 70 days. Just think of all the time you'll end up saving. If the grind is not appealing, then just don't do it. Your name will still be on all of your tools, so no one will know (or care) how they were made.

**Xenosan** · 05-19-2015 01:37 AM

You shouldn't need artisan offhand to attempt masterbook2 token synths. Those synths are more about RNG and clutch action use than they are stats. Really, it's possible to have attempted them before getting your Supras, that way NQ yields wouldn't be a waste.

Unless your going for completionist there's not much cause to get all those Artisan Offhands, especially with 3.0 around the corner. I'd just aim for the ones you want 4 star synthesis with right away.

Edit: I've seen sealants on our server get pretty cheap btw

Edit2: IIRC you can totally dodge Artisan Offhands if you gun straight for Lucis. Can anyone confirm?

**GenJoe** · 05-19-2015 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by Xenosan

Edit2: IIRC you can totally dodge Artisan Offhands if you gun straight for Lucis. Can anyone confirm?

Yes and you can even reach 4 stars without artisan's if you're going for nq items like furniture.
I did that with CRP for a while, made a few 4 star furniture with food buffs. Hell, I even remember somebody asking me for some nq ebony lumbers made and he tipped me like 200k (I was the only 4 star CRP online on the search menu) If you're trying to hq 4 stars, it's recommended but there really isn't much to make from 4 stars that's not a luxury (wootz weapons, ebony weapons, platinum accessories) you can do without all those especially if the money is tight, then with HW around the corner, there's really not much reason to invest millions for the gear, unless you just don't care about a few million gils here and there.

Really though, if you're able to farm sealants, I'd either just sell it off on MB for money if the price is good. Otherwise, you can make one offhand for either CRP or BSM to pump out off hands to sell on MB or WVR/LTW for the artisan/forager gears. I'd just sell the sealants directly and let the other people deal with the work though.

**Quesse** · 05-19-2015 05:05 AM

Hmm thanks for some feedback. I think I might try using my sealants to make a forager's sledge sell it and then with the resulting gil buy 2 sets of sealants to make 2 off-hands, sell one, etc. That assumes I can reasonably HQ these things. I've been very successful with the 3 star armor so no reason to think these would be any different?

**GenJoe** · 05-19-2015 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by Quesse

Hmm thanks for some feedback. I think I might try using my sealants to make a forager's sledge sell it and then with the resulting gil buy 2 sets of sealants to make 2 off-hands, sell one, etc. That assumes I can reasonably HQ these things. I've been very successful with the 3 star armor so no reason to think these would be any different?

There's a slight difference with the beginning quality since sealants are nq.

Still, if you can pull off a rotation with ~12 HTs, that should give you enough stacks for hq barring any terrible luck.

**Quesse** · 05-19-2015 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by GenJoe

There's a slight difference with the beginning quality since sealants are nq.

Still, if you can pull off a rotation with ~12 HTs, that should give you enough stacks for hq barring any terrible luck.

Well. I did my normal 3 star HQ rotation and had pretty bad luck on HTs and got to 50%. Decided to go for it and got HQ ^.^ But I'm not sure this is a fantastic idea. Competition for offhands is pretty huge and it will probably take a week to sell it >.> Still bummed that unless I just outlay a bunch of gil I won't get my artisan offhands any time soon. I have stacks of materia just waiting to blow up on them!

**Kaonis** · 05-20-2015 07:36 AM

I feel you, I just started to try and get back into crafting and started to look into getting new OH for some crafts and my gathering jobs. But the grind to merely be allowed to attempt the synth is ridiculous. And if I fail at my HQ attempt I'm out a week of grinding.

**Katchoo** · 05-20-2015 05:51 PM

Funny thing is if you had used all the money from selling all those FCIII and Mastercraft for the Supra you could have just bought all the sealant, crafted your Artisan offhand, and STILL be able to craft 4* with your Artisan main hand with money to spare.

**NecroFoul99** · 05-23-2015 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by Quesse

Hmm thanks for some feedback. I think I might try using my sealants to make a forager's sledge sell it and then with the resulting gil buy 2 sets of sealants to make 2 off-hands, sell one, etc. That assumes I can reasonably HQ these things. I've been very successful with the 3 star armor so no reason to think these would be any different?

If you take a break from spending money on yourself and just craft to sell, in no time you'll have the money for all your needs. It's hard to fathom how quickly your finances grow when you spend only one week making sure your retainers are full of product.

To give you an idea; one month after a became serious with selling my wares, I would start a crafting session buying 30 sealants.

Make some money for a bit. It will become clear.

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