SCH even better!

[Radacci]

Given that the Black Mage in the example had a whopping 9k+ hp at level 60, it's probably safe to assume that you'll never have a moment where it exceeds Stoneskin in normal use.

yah but SCH mag pwr will also be higher, specially with dissipation; So Adloq will probably still be stronger, just like it is now, even on tanks with 12k hp (well it depends on how geard the SCH is, vs how geard target of SS is)
Also you can't party-SS at all, in combat; you'll be able to use AOE-Adloq multiple times throughout a raid. And Adloq also heals, so it's worth a lot more HP than SS. It can be boosted with potency buffs, SS can't.

[Lemuria]

yah but SCH mag pwr will also be higher, specially with dissipation; So Adloq will probably still be stronger, just like it is now, even on tanks with 12k hp (well it depends on how geard the SCH is, vs how geard target of SS is)
Also you can't party-SS at all, in combat; you'll be able to use AOE-Adloq multiple times throughout a raid. And Adloq also heals, so it's worth a lot more HP than SS. It can be boosted with potency buffs, SS can't.

The duration is still 30 seconds. Other than tanks and some melee, I rarely find people get hit enough to take advantage of the barriers. Useful on enemies with unavoidable AoE, most certainly, but I won't make any lofty claims on it yet.

[Sapphic]

Given that the Black Mage in the example had a whopping 9k+ hp at level 60, it's probably safe to assume that you'll never have a moment where it exceeds Stoneskin in normal use.

Adlo is better than SS in normal use. Also Adlo gains the benefit from buffs that increase healing potency and thus the shield due to the strength of the shield being based on the amount healed. Whereas Stoneskin will always be 18% of the targets HP.

For ease of calculation we will say target has 10k HP. Stoneskin will shield for 1800. Adlo at the present time with decent gear heals for around 1200. With HW that figure is going to increase for effective healing. So if we base the increase of potency around the same percentile increase as the HP, which for the BLM at near 10k is about 30%. So you are looking at about 1600 Adlos non crit.

So 1600 heal, 1600 effective heal (the shield) 3200. Whereas Stoneskin is only an effective heal of 1800.

Stoneskin is only more effective than Adlo when the target has full HP or lost less than around 200 HP.

[LandricFrey]

When I learned to take complete control over my fairy, I've always healed better on my sch than whm. Even my aoe's were powerful considering Rouse+Whispering Dawn(macro) on top of Succor. When Odin came out as a 8-man, the only wins I had over him was when I was on scholar. Of course that's just me and maybe I just play scholar better than a whm. *shrugs*

[Radacci]

I kinda like the idea of Dissipation. SCH is a healer, and it's a bit boring that you can just rely on fairy, most of the time. With Dissipation and Emergency Tactics, you can heal much more efficiently by yourself; Normal Adloq will still be good though.
Indomitability seems quite OP actually. It's like Party-Stoneskin, but stronger.

[AlexanderThorolund]

Really happy with the new SCH changes, it's exactly what i wanted. Looking forward to seeing what else is in store. Maybe fairy glamour!?

[Nihility]

what i took from the scholar stuff is

indomitability: Medica clone for moving hp bars in an after the AoE situation. Maybe even an instant cast that eats an aetherflow instead of mp

deployment tactics: now when the huge aoe is incoming you adloquiem>deployment a guy for double(possibly quadruple) a succor shield. Can even add eye for an eye for groupwide which i can only assume would function like 8x the chance of proccing it from said big aoe

emergency tactics: now your adloquiem is bigger than a cure II with a massive crit bonus when all you want is raw healing

dissipation: any situation that having a pet out is unfavorable in some way can just make yourself extra strong instead

just from seeing how incredible these are, Would have to assume indomitability will use charges so it doesn't completely replace succor along with deployment tactics
and emergency tactics must be a cooldown that just alters adloquiem for 10-15s or something because it seems too powerful as just an on demand toggle

[Wizarus]

Dissipate is for raids. Pretty much confirming SCH is backup healer in 3.0

[Nihility]

Dissipate is for raids. Pretty much confirming SCH is backup healer in 3.0

how do you come to that conclusion from bigger heals, better shields, stronger utility, more damage potential, better mana management?
SCH is already a beast and is getting literally every weakness in their loadout buffed up
All dissipate will be is an additional self buff that will make the rare situation where fairy isn't optimal no longer an issue

If anything they make it sound like SCH is going to be the go-to main healer


WHM is getting a lustrate-ish heal, a ground aoe regen, and another tier of stone and aero. That is nothing compared to what scholar is getting

[Wizarus]

how do you come to that conclusion from bigger heals, better shields, stronger utility, more damage potential, better mana management?
SCH is already a beast and is getting literally every weakness in their loadout buffed up
All dissipate will be is an additional self buff that will make the rare situation where fairy isn't optimal no longer an issue

If anything they make it sound like SCH is going to be the go-to main healer


WHM is getting a lustrate-ish heal, a ground aoe regen, and another tier of stone and aero. That is nothing compared to what scholar is getting

Yep and after all that DPS is still the name of the game. And we don't know if SCH's AoE healing potential will be just as good than the other 2, despite this new information.