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    Will WHM be getting a new trait to replace ProShell?

    In the live letter, they mentioned that the magic defense for Protect that conjurers get will be added to all healing classes when using protect... they seemed to kind of brush off the fact that this is a lvl 16 conjurer trait though... so will they be replacing it? Otherwise it's a pretty worthless trait, and it's not like they're giving everyone access to Super Virus.

    I'm kind of worried as well as I was really hoping WHM would get some help in the mana regen department and it seems that was overlooked too T_T
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    They did state that the protect will have a different effect for each healer tho each of them possessing a different trait that will add on to it but pro shell will go to each healer....and its rightful because then WHM would have a monopoly on atleast one healer spot by default
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhycranaDranix View Post
    They did state that the protect will have a different effect for each healer tho each of them possessing a different trait that will add on to it but pro shell will go to each healer....and its rightful because then WHM would have a monopoly on atleast one healer spot by default
    Ahh ok. It was like 3AM my time when the letter was on and the person translating for Yoshida-san was less than clear and my brain wasn't operational enough to translate myself lol. So hopefully this means ProShell will be replaced by an ability that gives Protect its WHM "benefit" like SCH and AST will have in their repertoire? But then... would it stack with two different healing types in the group if they both had their own additional effect? That seems... odd... I dunno. My brain is still sleep deprived T_T
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    I don't recall them saying WHM getting a new Protect trait (it wouldn't make sense to give each healer a Protect trait as Protect is most likely going to stay crossclass from CNJ). I rather hope they get a trait on Cleric Stance to help their DPS MP management to replace the loss of it. It would also make sense for the new tools WHM seem to be getting. But all we can do is wait and see.
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    My interpretation was this.

    Protect will be altered so that it mitigates both physical and magical damage for all healers, but will be nerfed a bit to compensate (for example, 50% of current). CNJ will retain Proshell trait, which will be changed so that it enhances both Def and Mdef to what we have now.
    That way the other healers are getting some Mdef benefit now.
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    probably just be changing proshell so it alters protect in some other way, like instant cast or no mana or something along those lines

    the whole point of rolling proshell into the base protect spell is because with 2 healer spots, if only 1 healer is giving the entire party a passive mdef boost it kind of locks the spot.
    So if they did anything to it like if your a WHM it's stronger, you have the same issue of bringing a WHM just means everyone is a little more tankier and easier to survive naturally locking the spot

    something like what i mentioned earlier doesn't give that disparity while instead just makes the spell a little nicer for a WHM
    given the trait is 16 the other things it could augment are
    stone, cure, aero, cleric stance, medica, and raise

    things i could actually see happening among those are
    aero ticks have a chance to modify next stone spell in some way
    cleric stance buffed in some way to compliment the WHM will be doing damage while healing thing
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    I don't think they'll keep the Proshell trait. If the point of the change is for balancing then the baseline protection should be equivalent for all jobs. I guess we'll find out more when they announce the exact change they're making.

    With that being said, I hope they do remove the Proshell trait and give replace with a Cleric's Stance trait that gives a 20% boost to damage instead of 10% =D Or maybe damage done by the White Mage using single target abilities restore 5% of the damage done to the target's target.

    *Dreams*
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    Delferia Seule
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    If traits got tweaked, I'd love to see SCH follow suit, it has 3 traits that increase it's INT, how's that for useless? Granted, WHM would likely be first in line considering it's not tied to a DPS base class, but still. Throw some love on the other side of the fence too!
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    Replacing it with a trait that increases accuracy while in Cleric Stance would benefit the current meta a lot especially with the way the design changes for WHM are going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethos View Post
    Replacing it with a trait that increases accuracy while in Cleric Stance would benefit the current meta a lot especially with the way the design changes for WHM are going.
    I would prefer the MP regen method mentioned. Accuracy to mirror tank stance would be nice too however!
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