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    But you can recast protect through out the fight making it more a spell and utility than just a one buff at the beginning. Adding new traits for a different effect might add a little spice to the use of protect. Imagine a physical one and a magical def barrier or one that off sets Crit like stated.....we would be using protect throughout the fight which could be awesome lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhycranaDranix View Post
    But you can recast protect through out the fight making it more a spell and utility than just a one buff at the beginning. Adding new traits for a different effect might add a little spice to the use of protect. Imagine a physical one and a magical def barrier or one that off sets Crit like stated.....we would be using protect throughout the fight which could be awesome lol
    Oh hey dps can u come here so i can cast protect on the whole party in 1 go? Oh busy? Ok i'll just have to recast it a bunch of times to get protect on all of u lol = waste of time and mp.
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    Kyan Ashton
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    Oh hey dps can u come here so i can cast protect on the whole party in 1 go? Oh busy? Ok i'll just have to recast it a bunch of times to get protect on all of u lol = waste of time and mp.
    Like it doesn't happen already with normal healing. "Hey DPS, mind not standing in those AoEs? Oh, there's a big hit coming, BLM, can you stack? No? Ok, guess I need to waste time and MP healing you lol."
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    By that logic you aren't forced to do anything, but you will enjoy your progression being 10x harder than anyone else's?

    I get what you are saying but whether or not you agree with it, the entire point of the proshell for everyone is to make sure that everyone has that buff...so regardless of whether or not you feel WHM is required this is a step to make them less required. They wouldn't want to just turn right around and make it more required again, it wouldn't make sense designwise. You still right now need one for Mind boost, but maybe astrologer brings that, but then you may want SCH for piety - etc. Its always imo bad when only one class brings something.

    Sure lets not have homogenization, but every buff/debuff should have at least 2 classes bringing it.
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    I never said I disagree on pro-shell being accessible for every healer class. I don't really feel for the idea of that "white mage is a must" either or for any other class for that matter. But Square-Enix decided to change it "for balance", but what kind of balance will this really bring if only this gets changed? There's still a lot to be speculated, however.

    The current healing role distribution among the two existing healers would be:
    White mage as main healer, Scholar as supportive healer

    So what if Astrologian comes in? I'm guessing it'll be the following:
    White Mage main healer, Scholar supportive healer
    White Mage main healer, Astrologian supportive healer ("barrier" stance)
    Astrologian main healer ("healing" stance), Scholar supportive healer
    Astrologian main healer ("healing" stance), Astrologian supportive healer ("barrier" stance)

    The last one being the least likely, but more likely than white mage/white mage if the game stays as it is right now. There's also the thing that Scholars get some additional raw healing strength, so the following wouldn't be too far fetched:
    Scholar main healer, Scholar supportive healer
    Scholar main healer, Astrologian supportive healer ("barrier" stance)

    Whether these kind of healing pairs are plausible or not is something we'll find out when Heavensward is released.

    In conclusion:
    With the additional skills and descriptions that has been presented so far, Scholar and Astrologian could fulfill both the main- as well as supportive healing role. While white mages do get additional damaging spells, these don't seem very viable because:
    1) if accuracy is still a thing for healers
    2) The healing while damaging effect will cause either bad healing while decent damage or vica versa. Depending on Cleric's Stance (if being affected at all)

    Main concern would be accuracy. As long healers can't really obtain any accuracy "naturally", it's not very plausible for them to fulfill the supportive healing role like how Scholar is right now. Or far from optimal the very least. "Balance" isn't exactly the word I'd use here like Square-Enix seems to do. Equality seems more suitable. But equality doesn't always mean justice - Or in this case balance.

    These are just speculations based on current healing meta as well as with only information we "sort of" know from the live letter. So take it with a grain of salt.

    edit:
    Speculations based on (progressive) raid environment, by the way. For dungeon'ish content anything goes, of course.
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    Last edited by Lyrica_Ashtine; 05-26-2015 at 02:30 AM.

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