Please do not make group quest open world areas.

[Edellis]

The point I was trying to make is that the sonic fanbase cannot decide on what makes a sonic game good. Is it just going really fast? They started making the "boost" games, like colors which lacked the awful Werehog nonsense, and people still complained. Sure, most new sonic games are trash, but what I was getting at is that the community sends mixed messages on what they want improved. Probably not the best comparison, but whatever.

Ah. Well, just in response to that? The reason Sonic the Hedgehog games can't find a good formula is because the developers themselves simply don't know how to make good games anymore. The sonic community can tell the developers what they want forever, but Sonic Team no longer has the talent to use their own intuition, which is why all their games play like a jumbled mess of shallow concepts. It has nothing to do with "modern" or "classic" in sonic's case, Mario has altered it's formula tons of times and achieved overall success. Sega just can't design solid games anymore.


As for Square? They clearly take input, but have their own professional intuition as developers to know when to listen and when to make the other call. Some people agree, some disagree, but in the end it has worked out very well for this game. Black Mage is a good example of this, Summoner is an extreme example, and in heavensward hopefully it'll be a good one.

The only thing I can think of is the raid boss birds in Plane of Fire from Everquest. They often would charm the high level that comes to help people out. The charmed high level proceeds to steamroll all the lowbies.

Oh my god. That is hilarious.

Oooh, yes, more challenging leves should be a thing. Combine the idea with the underutilized guildhest mission structure, but set it in the open world. THAT would be the type of content that builds community and gets people working together, not trash mobs.

I know, right? In fact when they announced Hunts, i was fully expecting it to function like this. Instead....well, we got what people were asking for. And it's not very fun.

[NovaWulfe]

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Well said, I can actually fully agree with you there.