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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    summons = buffs?
    I didn't realize a Summoner was a buffer. I must be playing a different game.
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SoloWingMetatron View Post
    Who says SE couldn't do something like this in the future?
    3.0 was the "future", the promised upgrade to all jobs and SE has made it clear they don't want to focus on pets in their only pet class.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    I didn't realize a Summoner was a buffer. I must be playing a different game.
    You are correct, SMN and BLM are the only dps jobs that don't provide a party dps increase with buff or debuff. Don't believe me, see Dragon kick, Disembowel, Trick Attack, and even Storm's Eye. So why can't SMN and BLM get some love? Good come back though for why SE shouldn't focus on pets.
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 05-25-2015 at 05:05 AM.

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    Helel Ni-frith
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    3.0 was the "future", the promised upgrade to all jobs and SE has made it clear they don't want to focus on pets in their only pet class.
    SE never once said that the upgrade would include Egi changes for the launch of 3.0...that was your assumption, nothing more. So no it wasn't "the future" it was your presumptuous future.

    Fact of the matter is, that many people here (myself included) have either claimed that SMN needs more burst potential, or that it needs more focus on viable Egi/new Egi. SE has addressed both of these concerns and chose to prioritize the burst potential first. Then they will work on the Egi, but either way we will have our Egi. All this boils down to at the end of the day is people selfishly bitching that their needs/wants were not met first....but what about other peoples needs/wants. SE has confirmed they are addressing both so we will ultimately get both.
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    Mistress Kupo
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    Coeurl
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SoloWingMetatron View Post
    All this boils down to at the end of the day is people selfishly bitching that their needs/wants were not met first....but what about other peoples needs/wants. SE has confirmed they are addressing both so we will ultimately get both.
    The problem with this statement is that we're not insisting on getting anything first. Black Mage became their priority in 2.2/2.3. 2.4 saw ninja and seriously screwed SMN up by putting spell speed on every piece of gear. We are over a year out from the time Yoshi said we would get new egis (Tokyo FATE 2014). I really don't see how this could possibly be us being greedy and demanding we get our things first. We've been last on the list for more than a year and we finally got tired of being stomped on, but heaven forbid after a year we ask where our promised fixes are.
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    Helel Ni-frith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuponutz View Post
    The problem with this statement is that we're not insisting on getting anything first. Black Mage became their priority in 2.2/2.3. 2.4 saw ninja and seriously screwed SMN up by putting spell speed on every piece of gear. We are over a year out from the time Yoshi said we would get new egis (Tokyo FATE 2014). I really don't see how this could possibly be us being greedy and demanding we get our things first. We've been last on the list for more than a year and we finally got tired of being stomped on, but heaven forbid after a year we ask where our promised fixes are.
    Oh don't get me wrong I get why there's disappointment because acquiring new Egi was going to be my top priority in HW and will continue to be a priority for me when new Egi are finally released. I do love my Egi and was disappointed when the release of new Egi was pushed back further. However there's a difference from people being disappointed (like you and I) and people who are irrationally bashing SMN's new abilities as if it's in some way breaking or ruining the job. When in actual fact these new abilities are perfectly fine, not only do they fix SMN's burst DPS issues, but they also stay true to the lore.

    Yes perhaps the new ability could have been triggered from an Egi, though technically that Bahamut head is a temporary Egi so it all depends how you choose to look at it. I personally choose to see it as an Elder Primal summoning, with the regular Primals coming as Egi. So ultimately we are getting both, so wheres the issue? Surely as long as we get new Egi (which we will) then that's all that matters, just need to be patient and trust SE.
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