Another Upset Summoner

[Spellbinder]

People on these forums want our SMN to be like 100% of our power or else it isnt playing a SMN aparently.

Or, you know, some people could just want a little more utility than pet auto-attacks, like I mention in pretty much any summoner discussion I join. As I've said before in previous threads. DoTs are fine, I have no qualms with them. I like them. But the Egi are uninspired in terms of what they bring to the table.

Are people really satisfied with just using which ever Egi they think edges out the other two for DPS, and to hell with variety or interesting gameplay? No one finds it strange that the developers originally said "well, we didn't want to make the pet class complicated," and then we get new classes like Ninja and Dark Knight which he explicitly said on the stream are complicated classes?

I would LOVE to change things up by having a meaningful reason to juggle between Garuda and Ifrit inbetween my DoTs, but nope. Too complicated.

[Sen_Terrechant]

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You should have plenty of things to do between your DoTs anyways. I really dont understand why people think that SMN isnt a complicated job. Sure you can just throw up DoTs, fester and set the pet on autoattack but you arent playing the class to its full potential. Every class is easy if you look at things in a vacuum.

If they fix pathing, and pet responsiveness im fine with them doing 'more'. What is your version of MORE by the way? Is it adding more useless utility that wont be used because other classes do it better? Will it affect the MAIN reason people bring a DPS class to a raid? (Read: Doing DPS).

We have already been at times screwed over DPS wise because we have a Rez, id rather not add in more not very useful utility for people to point fingers at and go "SEE SMN HAS SO MUCH UTILITY!!!111!!1".

[Zhamkyong]

Are people really satisfied with just using which ever Egi they think edges out the other two for DPS, and to hell with variety or interesting gameplay?

I use Titan when solo. Also, if the tank dies for any reason in dungueons i use Swiftcast to bring him into battle for the time he is needed. I use Ifrit more often generaly speaking, i love him more than Garuda. If i have to keep moving instead of casting (like Steps of Faith) i use Garuda to extend my Dot.

I dont know about the others, but i use all the Egis when i feel i need them. Also a quick note: They may not be our strongets dps mechanic, but if they die you will notice it. They need few adjustments, i agree very much on that.

[Takfloyd]

Summoners should be able to use a massive attack like how summons work in every other FF game. One that acts as a finisher, consumes the Egi and puts it on a cooldown so you have to rotate between Egis. Enkindle is not good enough.

[Zhamkyong]

I was listening to the Japanese, not the low-quality interpreter (not that it's her fault, she's obviously not familiar with the game) and I heard no such thing. They said they would let us change how they look (some time off in the future), but there was no mention of more Egi abilities. If you can pull a quote from the Japanese and not the English, I'll believe it when I see it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZf7vBdsVu0

Here, in the 04:20 i think, around that time in the video they said about work more on the Egis than adding new ones. I only understand the english voice, so i dont know if he actually said it or no. If not... well, thats a pretty screwed up traduction.

[Sunako]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZf7vBdsVu0

Here, in the 04:20 i think, around that time in the video they said about work more on the Egis than adding new ones. I only understand the english voice, so i dont know if he actually said it or no. If not... well, thats a pretty screwed up traduction.

You can read everything from here.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...t-Thread/page2

[Spellbinder]

You can read everything from here.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...t-Thread/page2

Sunako beat me to it, but yes, the interpreter's interpretation was slightly off.

これは、長い目で見たときにペットを増やすより
本体のアクションを充実させたほうが活躍できると考えたためです。

Looking at the long-term, instead of adding more pets, we felt it better to give more use to the job by adding actions to summoner.

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Oh look, someone copy-pasting across different threads with the same somewhat condescending attitude.

Make the current Egi's better > get more of the average in 1-2 more summons......

This is what I would like to think many people, including myself, wanted, but we're NOT getting this sort of change.

[ShaolinMike]

Summoners should be able to use a massive attack like how summons work in every other FF game. One that acts as a finisher, consumes the Egi and puts it on a cooldown so you have to rotate between Egis. Enkindle is not good enough.

Akh Morn would like a word with you...

[Geaux]

Akh Morn would like a word with you...

they don't pay attention.... just complain when they find out they can't run around with mini shiva through Mor Dhona while waiting on everything to get Echo nerfed.

[Sen_Terrechant]

they don't pay attention.... just complain when they find out they can't run around with mini shiva through Mor Dhona while waiting on everything to get Echo nerfed.

Pretty much. Im honestly curious how many of these dissenters have even beaten Coil, let alone post-Echo coil.