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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SoloWingMetatron View Post
    Oh I agree with you. I just thought your initial comment was based on the notion of Trances being the new thing and the Egi getting phased out...
    Ahh ok I see. Yeah, I don't think or hope that Egi's will ever get phased out. IMO the Trance is just SMN getting more fleshed out just like the rest of the jobs. MNK getting Meditate doesn't mean it will lose GL, it just gives a focused direction of development.

    Because SCH and SMN stem off ACN I think it will take a long time before both those Jobs are fleshed out enough that people don't think of them as ACN with Heals, ACN with Fester. I don't think we'll see the Trance become the new SMN staple and have the Pets completely overshadowed as an afterthought. But I hope we see synergy developed between all SMN pets and skills.

    i.e. Trance infused SMN, Trance infused Pets.
    Example - hmmm Should I Ahk Morn this set of adds, or since Rouse/Spur/Enkindle is up should I put Garuda into Enrage Mode using my Trance stacks and just obliterate everything.
    Or absorbing the pet/aether to get fully charged Trance

    AOE Burst - Ahk Morn -> Absorb Pet -> SC Pet -> Rouse/Spur, Enrage using Trance - Enkindle
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    AreeyaJaidee's Avatar
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    Mewt Naeun
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 100
    So, at lvl 60 SMN becomes Blue Summoner Mage (BLUSMNMAGE) and they're so powerful that they single handedly pimp smack Elder Primals!

    Better watch out BLMs there's a new caster in town! Elder Primal Jaidee!

    Plot Twist: I am part of the Elder Primal Hive Mind! One of us, One of us!
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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Unless they add an elemental wheel there is no point to adding new Egis since we will use the one with the strongest damage. In this game Summoners harness and channel the energy of the primals shape it into a biddable avatar that's how we get the egis. Bahamut stacks/Dreadwyrm Trance allow Summoners to channel the power of Bahumat which is in line with what Summoner's are suppose to do in this game. If SE allowed us to channel the power of the other 7 primals and do a primal trance with them it'll complete my vision of what a Final Fantasy Summoner looks like in an MMORPG.
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Considering there will be new skills in 3.0 why not like wait until then to see if the new abilities are good or not and then maybe complain if you must?
    True more Egis were talked about a few times but SE has promised many things, lol
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    Helel Ni-frith
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Considering there will be new skills in 3.0 why not like wait until then to see if the new abilities are good or not and then maybe complain if you must?
    True more Egis were talked about a few times but SE has promised many things, lol
    New Egi will come in some form, trust and believe.
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    Raveen Raines
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SoloWingMetatron View Post
    New Egi will come in some form, trust and believe.
    Yes in the form of glamours. They've already said that they've thought long and hard about it and that they think the best idea is to rebalance the current egi's. They said they're planning on adding a system where you can basically glamour your pet into a new egi. Shiva for instance would replace your summon II for the tank pet, or you could use topaz carbuncle.
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    Helel Ni-frith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sequora View Post
    Yes in the form of glamours. They've already said that they've thought long and hard about it and that they think the best idea is to rebalance the current egi's. They said they're planning on adding a system where you can basically glamour your pet into a new egi. Shiva for instance would replace your summon II for the tank pet, or you could use topaz carbuncle.
    Yeah I think that sounds like the best way to tackle the Egi issue. I'm happy for the new Egi to be just glamours especially if it means they will be better balanced and therefore more useful. It also means not every SMN will have the same trio of Egi in play at any given time, adding a level of customization to the Egi. One SMN in a duty could be using Titan, while another is using Topaz Carby, or Alexander, Shiva, or whatever.
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    Raveen Raines
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Honestly if they had added more egi's the only thing that would have happened is that ifrit/garuda would have either been replaced or the new egi would have been useless.
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Brynhildr
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Is shiva gonna be a featureless blob? Cause all the egi's are featureless blobs. Its like a jello. Not necessarily saying its bad, but I'd rather have chibi Shiva than play-doh Shiva.

    Anyway I'm not disappointed. Akh Morn is shiny, and the only reason I liked BLM more than SMN were the animations.

    Dps matters little to me, because dps always changes and is rebalanced. Its much harder however, to change rotations and mechanics in the middle of an xpac, so I'm hoping new skills/cd's make that exciting. That's all I need.
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    Ixora Lepta
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    Zalera
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    Archer Lv 73
    The funny part about all the summoner rage is that what they're asking for is basically what Black Mage would be if it was bound to an elemental wheel. like 9 summons, tons of attacks, all expected to be useful...huh?

    There is really no need to bog the class down with even more summons when the current 3 have issues. And SE is rebalancing the entire class to fix these issues, on top of moving forward with the 60 job/class abilities.
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