Another Upset Summoner

[Galand]

Pretty much all this^

But hey! Shiny beam of light thats a 1 second animation, that makes EVERYTHING ELSE INFERIOR, all hail the moonfire master race. I can see it now, people must be lining up by the numbers to become Summoners, this super amazing ability who needs anything else

Also the Bane thing would not be OP, has anyone here actually played a BLM and used Fire 2 then double flare? you tell me whats op after that

[Flinx]

I actually doubt that people relating ahk morn to moonfire have felt ahk morn's power in t13.

[ManaKing]

I swear people see the stupid light show and did not even listen to anything else and just rampantly defend and go nuts for it. Oh you know that trademark ability of Bahamut that any Final Fantasy fan should recognize..oh wait thats Mega Flare...... WTF is ahk morn? Oh that spell that only 1% of the population has seen, oh okay iam so happy iam getting that

That's easy. Ahk Morn was something new for Bahamut specifically for this game. If you've fought against him, you know it's a crazy light show of doom and honestly it's pretty bad ass. If you've tanked it, it's a lot of 'oh shit' moments back to back. If we can get any of that experience and turn it onto our enemies, it will wreck face. The various 'Flares' are cool and are possibly included in SMN somewhere, but honestly I think the dev team did a great job designing Ahk Morn and I think it's the right choice to add to SMN for this game. BLM already has Flare, I don't personally want to have an ability that can be compared to Flare because someone will get hurt feelings and honestly that means both jobs lose.

[Lorielle]

That's easy. Ahk Morn was something new for Bahamut specifically for this game. If you've fought against him, you know it's a crazy light show of doom and honestly it's pretty bad ass. If you've tanked it, it's a lot of 'oh shit' moments back to back. If we can get any of that experience and turn it onto our enemies, it will wreck face. The various 'Flares' are cool and are possibly included in SMN somewhere, but honestly I think the dev team did a great job designing Ahk Morn and I think it's the right choice to add to SMN for this game. BLM already has Flare, I don't personally want to have an ability that can be compared to Flare because someone will get hurt feelings and honestly that means both jobs lose.

Funny thing about this is when watching the video...Even though it LOOKS like Ahk Morn, it doesn't FEEL like Ahk Morn. This is something I'm hardly pleased with and I don't get why others are. To me it's just an empty replica of white light.

[Natsuno]

BLM already has Flare, I don't personally want to have an ability that can be compared to Flare because someone will get hurt feelings and honestly that means both jobs lose.

Yup, I think that's the 'Flare' line of spells are pretty much reserved for BLM at this point. Giving Mega/Tera/Whatever-Flare to SMN would be too much of a blurring between the two jobs. If any more Flares make it into the game as job skills, they'll be given to BLM.

This way we're more unique with regards to the other jobs (except SCH which we share our base class with ofc).

[Dyvid]

Anyone remember when Titan's Table Flip was the OMG moment? What about dive bomb?

[Trespar]

Also the Bane thing would not be OP, has anyone here actually played a BLM and used Fire 2 then double flare? you tell me whats op after that

I don't think you want to go there. You're opening a can of worms you may wish you hadn't.

Of course, you're 100% right, though.

[Sayora]

I'm not really bummed about it. I know we're called Summoner, but I just don't think adding new egis will really do much for us. As to them "promising" new egis, their attitudes and ideas just change over time so it's really just wiser to take it with a "Believe it when I see it." attitude. I'm really just going to save my pitchfork for the 3.0 patchnotes, when we can get a list of what's really gonna happen.


As for Bahamut, I kind of like the fact that Elder Primals do something entirely different to the Summoner than your normal primal. Wonder how that's going to be explained though, can't help but think it'll involve that dungeon that looked like it belonged in FCoB.

[raelgun]

listing points

1. They did not promise, they said they will look into it, this goes both ways and in this case it went in the case of not getting any new ones.
2. This I can agree on.
3. I disagree, I believe in gear competition otherwise people get complacent, this is just being greedy.
4. I dont agree with food affecting pets, this becomes messy due to balancing.
5. They are balanced, only titan can not be used in normal circumstances, Garuda is good on target switching and ifrit is best on straight single target dps where it never needs to swap targets.
6. This is too powerful, not to mention you can just dot up the remaining mobs.

Why do you want more pets, what would the other pets do?

I do not believe classes must have actions for the sake or RP or straight up vanity, they must have a function and the balance is based around end game or grouped content.

Just to let you know, there has been a cry from people they wanted to see caster LB 3 animation to be reduced as the flash pretty much takes over the screen, though I personally can manage just fine, so having more flashy spells is a no go, especially on titan type fights, I had complaints thrown at me using LB 3 on Titan ex though it was nicely timed :P.

Having huge pets running around at end game, what do you want to do, cover the whole boss up?, this is a nightmare for tanks and those in melee, ones at range, depending on mechanics and the size of the room this will wreck havoc for the telegraphed skills from bosses.

[raelgun]

I don't think you want to go there. You're opening a can of worms you may wish you hadn't.

Of course, you're 100% right, though.

Double flare has a CD and can only be used once every now and then, bane can be used upto 6 times, thats constant dots up and is far more efficient then fire 2 + flare over targets that have high health.