Another Upset Summoner

[Galand]

Its a cool looking ability...? Whats wrong with a cool looking ability?

Just because you think it looks stupid doesn't mean all people do.

Furthermore why do you think it means that megaflare doesn't exist?

Why are you hating on an ability that you've only just seen?

My point is that people see this one thing and have thrown out all of our wants and needs as a class because were getting Druid's moonfire from Warcraft, they learn that at level 10

[Kuponutz]

Its a cool looking ability...? Whats wrong with a cool looking ability?
Why are you hating on an ability that you've only just seen?

Because we have a lot "cool looking' abilities on SMN now. Just because it looks pretty doesn't mean it does squat for damage or utility. No one is hating on it, we're just not passing judgement based on the cool name and pretty animation. As I said above it has potential, but considering how SMN has been treated by devs in the past year (see Akeda's comments) was it really too much to ask to have the egis we were promised and to have them fix the job a little bit. Heck even giving us our own gear, or make it where if we use food (mainly acc food) affect our pets would have been something, this is a joke. Why is it that every single other class can use acc food to meet requirements, yet we have one requirement for us, and another for our pet. You can't give us gear that meets BLM needs but then demand more accuracy for SMN with shared gear pool.

This is just the final nail in the coffin. They could have done so much with SMN and it's basically us getting walked all over once again, silly us for thinking they would actually deliver this time.

If I could have a SMN wishlist it would look something like this, in no particular order.

1. New egis we were promised.
2. Reduce CD timer on Enkindle to 3 min, or have it reset when there is a wipe.
2. Separate gear for SMN and BLM.
3. Allow food to affect pets OR either lower the acc requirements for pets or give us more acc gear.
4. Balance egis so they all have a purpose in endgame, party content.
5. Change Bane back to hitting all mobs in same area.

I don't feel like any of these are asking too much, SMN needs an overhaul and these, among other things, could help. I can see ppl saying the Bane one might be OP but until you have to dot 2-3 other adds and then Bane off them to hit the rest of the targets you have no idea what a pain this is. Obv egis aren't going to happen but I put it up there anyway.
Changing Enkindle to 3 mins would make it same as Perfect Balance for MNKs. There is no reason one should have a longer CD than the other.
At this point I am pretty sure we're not likely to get any of these things either in xpac, or ever, but I think they should be considered.

[Galand]

Pretty much all this^

But hey! Shiny beam of light thats a 1 second animation, that makes EVERYTHING ELSE INFERIOR, all hail the moonfire master race. I can see it now, people must be lining up by the numbers to become Summoners, this super amazing ability who needs anything else

Also the Bane thing would not be OP, has anyone here actually played a BLM and used Fire 2 then double flare? you tell me whats op after that

[Trespar]

Also the Bane thing would not be OP, has anyone here actually played a BLM and used Fire 2 then double flare? you tell me whats op after that

I don't think you want to go there. You're opening a can of worms you may wish you hadn't.

Of course, you're 100% right, though.

[raelgun]

I don't think you want to go there. You're opening a can of worms you may wish you hadn't.

Of course, you're 100% right, though.

Double flare has a CD and can only be used once every now and then, bane can be used upto 6 times, thats constant dots up and is far more efficient then fire 2 + flare over targets that have high health.

[raelgun]

listing points

1. They did not promise, they said they will look into it, this goes both ways and in this case it went in the case of not getting any new ones.
2. This I can agree on.
3. I disagree, I believe in gear competition otherwise people get complacent, this is just being greedy.
4. I dont agree with food affecting pets, this becomes messy due to balancing.
5. They are balanced, only titan can not be used in normal circumstances, Garuda is good on target switching and ifrit is best on straight single target dps where it never needs to swap targets.
6. This is too powerful, not to mention you can just dot up the remaining mobs.

Why do you want more pets, what would the other pets do?

I do not believe classes must have actions for the sake or RP or straight up vanity, they must have a function and the balance is based around end game or grouped content.

Just to let you know, there has been a cry from people they wanted to see caster LB 3 animation to be reduced as the flash pretty much takes over the screen, though I personally can manage just fine, so having more flashy spells is a no go, especially on titan type fights, I had complaints thrown at me using LB 3 on Titan ex though it was nicely timed :P.

Having huge pets running around at end game, what do you want to do, cover the whole boss up?, this is a nightmare for tanks and those in melee, ones at range, depending on mechanics and the size of the room this will wreck havoc for the telegraphed skills from bosses.

[Judge_Xero]

People gonna be mad even if we get Mega Flare as SMN LB

[Flinx]

I actually doubt that people relating ahk morn to moonfire have felt ahk morn's power in t13.

[Dyvid]

Anyone remember when Titan's Table Flip was the OMG moment? What about dive bomb?

[Higashikata]

ikr? SMNs should get actual summonerlike smmoning garuda ex to do full damage and lots of aoe so i can be top dps without doing anything but ruin II!

But in all seriousness, they showed 5 skills and only covered what two of them do and yet all anybody can do is cry about pets. What else could they do with pets that would radically change summoner? Release a new pet that's better at AoE than garuda and better at single target than ifrit? Then what? Make it completely pointless to use any other pet? Buffing the pets to the point where the summoner needs nerfing? Changing the class from the ground up to cater to the people who want more flashy aoe super burst DPS?

I don't see what else SE can add to SMN pets at this point that wouldn't require re-building the entire class or being completely pointless.