RIP Ninja

[Apricoth]

Care to elaborate, perhaps? Currently, as long as the boss mechanics allow it, there's no reason to stay at a target's rear 100% of the time. If it's not to dodge AoE, a NIN never has to position themselves any differently.

I am confused by your comment/question here. My comment was more a joke then anything so perhaps that didn't convey well over the interwebs. On a serious note, ninjas should be ready to move at all times, especially to avoid AoEs, to place Dotons (gotta throw up that dodge skill) and get the hell outta the way of incoming AoEs after Dotons have been placed.

[Azmaria]

I could care less about the positionals, I'm more upset that we get pretty much nothing. Sure not having to recast huton is nice, but all that gives us is an extra raiton, woooo much damage. We get no shiny buff ability that lets us go awesome mode. I am trying to figure out how our damage will go up to meet these others who get all these cool buffs that strengthen their rotation.

The aggro skill is pretty meh, if the tanks are doing bad this won't help much. Nin won't even get to play with it outside party's so it sits rusting along with goad for solo play.

[melflomil]

I could care less about the positionals, I'm more upset that we get pretty much nothing. Sure not having to recast huton is nice, but all that gives us is an extra raiton, woooo much damage. We get no shiny buff ability that lets us go awesome mode. I am trying to figure out how our damage will go up to meet these others who get all these cool buffs that strengthen their rotation.

The aggro skill is pretty meh, if the tanks are doing bad this won't help much. Nin won't even get to play with it outside party's so it sits rusting along with goad for solo play.

They didn't show off all moves. Only some. They didn't explain what the skills in the demo were

[Evangela]

screw the bonus. I'll ignore it just like how I ignore most of the mechanics in this game.

[Reokudo]

Welp, good thing I am gonna main DRK.

[Houston009]

lol @Positionals_ruining_ninja

[KingXRay]

lol @Positionals_ruining_ninja

yeah maybe we should do #positionalsruiningninja spam the facebook and twitter lol, then they might buff ninja :P

[Elazu]

Uh...where exactly is the problem?

[ErzaScarlet77]

NIN will still do ridiculous damage and be very desirable for TA and goad
and positionals arent that bad. its actually a lot of fun

[Adire]

NIN will still do ridiculous damage and be very desirable for TA and goad
and positionals arent that bad. its actually a lot of fun

If you like that, sure.

Ninja appeals to me, and to a lot of people I imagine, because it does not have many positionals (only 2, and they share a 60 second CD). I do not find monk to be fun. It's very frustrating, not to mention painful for my hands, to constantly do positionals. That's just my preference.

Ninja provided a viable alternative to monk. Now Ninja will have to do what Monk does as well as use mudras. It's even worse that old skills are getting positionals.

This whole time people have gotten accustomed to using them without positionals, now suddenly they will have to do otherwise.

Job diversity is the main problem I have here. Now if I want to melee DPS, having an alternative to positionals is no longer an option. They'd be better off adding more mudras if they want to keep NIN its own job but make it more complicated to play at the same time.

It sounds like NIN may just be MNK with mudras and maybe slightly lower dps, and DRG will do higher dps than previously without much difficulty added onto playing the class.