RIP Ninja

[silentwindfr]

is not really about who have the better dps between drg, mnk and nin, but more about what will happend to the ninja with the add of the positional and more important the fact that the jobs didn't get any new mechanic...

simply add new skill will not make the class more interesting, if the new skill don't bring new and fresh experience for the player. but that the point, we ninja did receive the less attention of the whole jobs present. indeed some jobs did need some change. i will never say the inverse, but the goal of an expasion, it's to expand the limit of the jobs. when i see the list of the mechanic and gameplay announced for the jobs of the game... and arrive to the ninja.... it look miserable.
everyjob outside ninja, did get a new mechanic that did bring new experience for the player... but ninja will still be played like before.... but for avoid this, instead to develop more the unique gameplay of the ninja, they did decide to put positional into it. without even thinking at the trouble it can lead.... the op of the reddit post is right, it will recquire a lot of skill for be able to pull a good dps with the positional into the skill of the ninja. we can argue for hours why it's bad.... i have give 3 reason valid to be against it.

that don't change the fact, that SE did simply ignore the trouble of the ninja and instead to work on it and bring new experience for the jobs.... they did decide to leave us with a system more broken.... what will happend to the ninja? only a few player will be able to play it correctly... and you know what? SE will need to patch the jobs for make it viable in high level content. and instead to avoid a futur trouble and respect them ninja community.... they did insult us... they take us for idiot, they did ignore us.... i'm sorry my word are hard, but it's the reality.

we did deserve more than what they decide to offer us... some piece of gameplay outdated and not adapted at what player was looking for, when they did decide to join the ninja. because they was unable to develop new mechanic nor they was able to ignore the crying of jealousy of the other community.

i'm not for the stuff like riot and petition, i found them pointless. but i feel soo much angry about what they did... all the expansion look marvelous, but this...."thing" did almost break all my excitement i had until now. because my jobs was *smirks* treated like the 5th wheel of the car. i'm sure i'm not the only one feeling this angry and displease and betrayed by SE action. it's not at the same point of the warrior, because the warrior was an error of the design... here they did take our jobs and did decide to ignore him design for change it into something broken and more important this change will bring nothing new. i'm sorry but i feel insulted by them way to handle our jobs.

ps: i doubt any petition, plea, riot stuff will change nothing, but if Yoshida and the community team really want to calm us, they need to come here and not give us craps as explanation about why they did decide to change the ninja for no reason and give us nothing new! it's time for them to step up and face us, the ninja community and talk to us. because soo far, our concern are more than legitimate and if like yoshida have said, he do consider this as a service.... we deserve some respect as player that did choose a jobs for it original design. it's time to listen to the community playing the jobs instead to the other community!

[Songi]

They're definitely being extremely lazy with how they're attempting to keep Ninja up to date with the other melee. That's exactly why I'm upset with the expansion and while I look forward to playing the actual content, I don't look forward to playing it as a Ninja at all. To that end, we're going to see a lot more Monks at endgame and a lot less Ninjas.

[Yuri_Hyuga]

Looks like I'll be putting away my knives... this' depressing.

The niche I loved playing NIN for is going away, what a disappointing way to handle making the Job a little more challenging.

[SDaemon]

Looks like I'll be putting away my knives... this' depressing.

The niche I loved playing NIN for is going away, what a disappointing way to handle making the Job a little more challenging.

Sorry

I'll still be enjoying NIN

[Yuri_Hyuga]

Sorry

I'll still be enjoying NIN

Happy for you, enjoy it! I just can't any longer.

I left MNK for lack of positionals with NIN, loved it.

Now I see no point, may as well just be a MNK again.

Won't have to deal with Mudra Lag.

[juniglee]

Happy for you, enjoy it! I just can't any longer.

I left MNK for lack of positionals with NIN, loved it.

Now I see no point, may as well just be a MNK again.

Won't have to deal with Mudra Lag.

Maybe it's a hidden message from SE: "Hey NIN guys, there's this cool class we'd like you to take a look at, it's called Dragoon!" XD

[Viridiana]

Looks like I'll have less competition for NIN gear. Thanks for giving up, guys! >_>

[Korbash]

One reason I'm against positionals for the ninja, is because I'm sick and disabled and with the ninja I can play a melee job that I like - always been fond of rogue/thief/burglar/assassin class in other games and MMOs, whatever name it gets - is fun and with not much positional required.

Those who like to have positional on their skills already have the monk job to play, dragoon has some positional skills as well so they get that too, and if ninja get positional skills as well, that would leave no job, no alternative, to play for those who don't want to - or cannot or have big issues with - play a job with positional skills. And I've seen in this thread and other threads that there are people who have issues playing a melee job with lots of positional skills like the monk so they chose the ninja to play, others have chosen the job for the pleasure to not have to deal with positional skills for once, while they have to do so for the other jobs they play.

I'm very wary about those unneeded changes coming in 3.0, those changes are homogenizing the job into the other two, especially the monk. The ninja won't be a ninja anymore. I'm really not happy about this.

I also think that the ninja should not get flashy skills, a ninja is not supposed to get noticed, it's supposed to be stealthy and stab targets quickly and deadly and the targets see it too late to react.

[Dualblade]

I also think that the ninja should not get flashy skills, a ninja is not supposed to get noticed, it's supposed to be stealthy and stab targets quickly and deadly and the targets see it too late to react.

-Looks at this. Turns attention to IV and watches as Edge uses different AoE Ninjutsu that are for sure flashy. Looks at VII with Yuffie also having some pretty flashy attacks.- Yeah, flashy really isn't ninja's thing...

[Duuude007]

idk about you, but I'm hella jazzed about the hate transference skill ninja is getting. Tanks love that shit.