RIP Ninja

[Enjuden]

I feel that it is silly to complain about positionals and consider it a 'nerf' when you don't know about the skill descriptions in the first place. What if the potency is the same for every single ability without said positional and all skills that do get a positional get a potency increase for fulfilling that requirement? Is that still 'RIP Ninja'?

Don't just assume that a class getting another requirement is going to be a 'nerf' when the requirement can be a buff. Because quite frankly, Ninjas do not have nearly enough worries to justify their current DPS when played optimally in 2.5. They never had.

Still, the main issue that a ninja has aside from Mudra lag is that it brings nothing to the table other melee have or do not do better. It used to with their low TP costs but they don't have that anymore, so now what? Hopefully the changes either fix the TP issue, or give..something, anything that makes Ninjas stand out from Dragoon or Monk.

[Riepah]

Still, the main issue that a ninja has aside from Mudra lag is that it brings nothing to the table other melee have or do not do better. It used to with their low TP costs but they don't have that anymore, so now what? Hopefully the changes either fix the TP issue, or give..something, anything that makes Ninjas stand out from Dragoon or Monk.

And I sure hope they don't consider Goad and the new aggro decrease ability to be enough. Goad just became a bit less useful with MNKs getting the ability to recover their own TP, and aggro should never be a problem in the first place. Not to mention that they still aren't giving us visible party TP bars.

[Viridiana]

I told you in another thread, saying that we will now require more skill than a MNK or DRG is ridiculous and unfounded.

But how else are we going to get 4 weeks of doom and gloom!?

[Dualblade]

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You are assuming Ninja is going to be like a Monk, when you should instead look at what they did with Dragoon. Right now we only have two positionals, with the possibility of another one coming in Heavensward. Ninja will most likely be something similar, not like Monk where positionals are everything.

[Houston009]

The TP recovery move requires the same stacks that allows them to do their heavy burst ability. Goad would increase MNKs damage overall because they can forgo the TP move.

[dice137]

How does getting positionals kill NIN? How lazy do you have to be to honestly have something like that as a legitimate worry?

[Pluvia]

How does getting positionals kill NIN? How lazy do you have to be to honestly have something like that as a legitimate worry?

Sorry you're in the wrong thread the summoner threads are on the dps forums this thread never said positionals will kill NIN(I even went back through all 20 pages and checked) It has nothing to do with laziness for most people and most people who play ninjas here played monk or still play both what worries people is having to deal with the mudra's fucking up and positionals. (Depending on which one looks better to me i'll play either)

[LTEvil]

A lot of good responses. Far too many me responses though. Should see it in General when talking about job changes. Positional will result in the amount of bad nin hitting far past lol drg. But only in actual dps check content. Otherwise it won't matter. And from what I've noticed se understand easy content makes money.

Someone said nin doesn't bring anything to the raid table besides goad and aggro debuff now that dragoon or monk does better. I'm sorry what? I believe some of these people never played nin nor raided.

But mundra plus positional will be the doom of any player who is not used to micro managing in the sense of controlling two things at the same time. And to min max nin easily takes a level of effort and skill no other job will come close to with these added changes. I hope New skills and gear looks good to make up for the New difficulty.

[LTEvil]

Silent you have good posts.