RIP Ninja

[Riepah]

NIN is not even the highest DPS now, without the positionals. I cannot imagine it turning out any way but the way you expect by adding them.

And if it does turn out that way, what will we have to show for it? The ability to regenerate TP for others, but not ourselves - while MNK gets the ability to recover their own TP, removing the Nr.1 target for Goad from the equation. And we'll be able to decrease aggro for one target... probably the new thing MNKs will keep asking us for, because with their awesome additions they can't help but pull mobs off the tank?

Until Yesterday, I was sure I would main NIN for Heavensward. At this point I'm not so sure anymore. I don't want to play the other melees' cheerleader.

[Houston009]

NIN is not even the highest DPS now, without the positionals. I cannot imagine it turning out any way but the way you expect by adding them.

Lololololol.

[Sapphic]

Lololololol.

They aren't and if you are getting out parsed by a NIN with equal gear then you need to look at your rotation and how you play as MNK.

[Houston009]

They aren't and if you are getting out parsed by a NIN with equal gear then you need to look at your rotation and how you play as MNK.

They are, and I could say the same thing, just vice versa.

[DragonSlayer45]

Worst case scenario is that they'll end up as punishing as pre-buff DRG where missing a positional screwed up your rotation and botched your overall DPS. I don't think adding positionals will drastically affect a NIN's DPS in a negative way, nor will it make any less fun to play. (At least for me)

Am I happy that its getting positionals? Not exactly. If I wanted to play a positional heavy class, I would have rolled a Monk in the first place. This is why I hope no more than two or three skills get positional requirements. Any more than that is frankly obnoxious and the job turns into a Monk with daggers. At the very least, I hope to see a heavy potency increase for our current skills that get these requirements.

[Kallera]

Whether its a sharp increase or a sharp decrease, the point is that it will be REQUIRED to do, or else you will end up belonging to "the bads" again.

[Zplinter]

(This space reserved until launch and I can see exactly what they have done. My Mudra "Trust" keeps failing with SE's cycle of promises, teases, reality.)

[whiskeybravo]

Sorry, but I have to lol at nin complaining about positional requirements.. Seriously. If you don't want them then go play a bard or caster or tank or healer.. MNK and DRG have had them the whole time.. There's still plenty of MNK and DRG out there, isn't there? Hitting a positional is a rewarding challenge, there is not challenge to stand in one spot and mash buttons. What a lazy attitude lol


Anyways.. Maybe they'll change goad, maybe not. As selfish as most NIN seem to be acting about their positionals, then they'd prolly just be selfishly using it on themselves the whole time anyways lol. I also doubt the enmity reduction ability will be able to troll tanks, there's no need to reduce enmity of the top target, really, only the gap between 1st and 2nd in aggro, or maybe it will have a stipulation such as "has no effect on tank jobs". It will be a niche use ability, no doubt, but us DRG and MNK will love it when you help us not pull off the tanks since we are gonna be so OP :P

(yes, that was a cheap shot lol)

The whole point of this is not to enrage you guys, just want to point out, it's so early, with little information being released. Why get all worked up over it before it actually comes out? I doubt NIN is going to become the red headed stepchild of FFXIV, if anything that's where SMN is heading.. xD

[Pluvia]

Sorry, but I have to lol at nin complaining about positional requirements.. Seriously. If you don't want them then go play a bard or caster or tank or healer.. MNK and DRG have had them the whole time.. There's still plenty of MNK and DRG out there, isn't there? Hitting a positional is a rewarding challenge, there is not challenge to stand in one spot and mash buttons. What a lazy attitude lol


Anyways.. Maybe they'll change goad, maybe not. As selfish as most NIN seem to be acting about their positionals, then they'd prolly just be selfishly using it on themselves the whole time anyways lol. I also doubt the enmity reduction ability will be able to troll tanks, there's no need to reduce enmity of the top target, really, only the gap between 1st and 2nd in aggro, or maybe it will have a stipulation such as "has no effect on tank jobs". It will be a niche use ability, no doubt, but us DRG and MNK will love it when you help us not pull off the tanks since we are gonna be so OP :P

(yes, that was a cheap shot lol)

The whole point of this is not to enrage you guys, just want to point out, it's so early, with little information being released. Why get all worked up over it before it actually comes out? I doubt NIN is going to become the red headed stepchild of FFXIV, if anything that's where SMN is heading.. xD

Naw just more of a slap to the face here have some positionals screw what we said about almost no positionals and making up with it for ninjutsu screw making it technical instead of positional we take back what we said and here have some more useless utility oh and enjoy another nerf to goad.(yes i know we have no clue what the abilties are that are coming for sure just from what we've heard I look at it all in a anything can change way. they could change goad completely and make it better)

Instead we get a dps right now that equals monk doesn't have but 2 positionals has mudra lag has people posting parse on dummies causing buthurt crybaby monks(not most of the monk just the really retarded ones) to bitch on the forums about the moment speed buff ninja has (gg no good ninja really cares about it you can have it and please take the less fall damage trait as well) yes i agree monk should be top dps as of now(not so if the new mechanics make GL retard easy though and how does this matter when you compare dps.)

TLDR: Say fuck the positionals fix mudra lag and make ninjas more technical instead of positional. no postionals will not ruin the class but you damn well sure better not be bitching when ninjas end up either tied with monk or overtake monks because SE goes full retard at the start of the expansion and over compensate buffs instead of balancing all 3 melee.

[Velhart]

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Even if they add one or two positional, they will likely be still less positional heavy than DRG and MNK.