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    Lacavi Argall
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    As a Warrior, thank you.

    Not for the Warrior changes, no. The biggest buff on that list was the fact that Paladins finally have a separate combo.
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    Soube Miseux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacavi View Post
    Not for the Warrior changes, no. The biggest buff on that list was the fact that Paladins finally have a separate combo.
    PLD will finally have a DPS combo that isn't mostly enmity generating moves, finally.
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    Alvis Yune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    PLD will finally have a DPS combo that isn't mostly enmity generating moves, finally.
    I'm so ready to not have to automatically have to fight every single PLD for aggro
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    PLD will finally have a DPS combo that isn't mostly enmity generating moves, finally.
    As a paladin.

    Paladins finally have a different combo. Thank God. I don't care what it's for, as long as it's something different.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
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    Makoto Edakumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    As a paladin.

    Paladins finally have a different combo. Thank God. I don't care what it's for, as long as it's something different.
    As long as the 3rd skill is low TP cost or they reduce the TP cost on Riot Blade... I'm talking a 70>80>40 or 70>60>60 like the RoH combo...
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaethusXion View Post
    As long as the 3rd skill is low TP cost or they reduce the TP cost on Riot Blade... I'm talking a 70>80>40 or 70>60>60 like the RoH combo...
    Going off what the LL Digest says, Paladins will have the same number of combos as Warriors.
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    Makoto Edakumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Going off what the LL Digest says, Paladins will have the same number of combos as Warriors.
    Oh, I was actually just saying the TP Cost on the new skill better be low if they leave Riot Blade's TP Cost the same, not even really talking about the number of combo chains. Just saying that RoH(70FB>60SB>60RoH) shouldn't cost less than the new combo(70>80>50+), that I'm hoping the new combo is (70FB>80RB>40new) or (70FB>60RB>60new). Just speculation and wishing
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Both the PLD and WAR new stuff looks cool and I am really interested to see how they work, particularly the new WAR stance and how the new party-centric abilities and buffs like Divine Veil will function in actual play scenarios especially in df pug groups.

    Also very curious to see what kind of party buff type stuff DRK gets. WAR is offensive, they are giving PLD defensive, so then what for DRK? The party dynamics for tank jobs will be very interesting in HW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Also very curious to see what kind of party buff type stuff DRK gets. WAR is offensive, they are giving PLD defensive, so then what for DRK? The party dynamics for tank jobs will be very interesting in HW.
    I believe they said DRK will get a tank stance, which does not consume mana, and a DPS stance which does.

    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    @Kiroh

    That's not what I meant, I know DRK will have a tank and dps stance. I was talking about party/raid buffs. WAR has the "enemy takes more slashing damage" debuff, which is functionally an offensive party/raid buff as it increases damage output of the raid. They stated that they will be doing something to PLD (maybe its Divine Veil?) so that they can buff the defense of the party/raid. That leads me to what I was wondering, what kind of party/raid buff type of stuff will DRK get? Will it be offensive focused like WAR or defensive like PLD or something else entirely and how will that effect the party dynamics of different tank combinations.
    Until SE says otherwise, expect "nothing".
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    Last edited by Kiroh; 05-22-2015 at 06:31 AM.

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    @Kiroh

    That's not what I meant, I know DRK will have a tank and dps stance. I was talking about party/raid buffs. WAR has the "enemy takes more slashing damage" debuff, which is functionally an offensive party/raid buff as it increases damage output of the raid. They stated that they will be doing something to PLD (maybe its Divine Veil?) so that they can buff the defense of the party/raid. That leads me to what I was wondering, what kind of party/raid buff type of stuff will DRK get? Will it be offensive focused like WAR or defensive like PLD or something else entirely and how will that effect the party dynamics of different tank combinations.
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