RIP summoner

[TheFatHousecat]

I'm glad they are fleshing out egis. It seems like most people here care more about the "looks" of the summoner and the lore then actual gameplay. I want the class to be complex and have a high skill ceiling, I don't give two hoots about what pets are summoned. If there is a best pet, I'll just use the best pet. If we have to swap pets to do more dmg, I'll do that. I don't care if they call them iffy or titan or if they look like a cloud. As long as the gameplay is good then I'm happy with the job.

And here, ladies and gentlemen, we see the demonstrated difference between people who treat this game as a game and those who treat it as a pretty chatroom. People who play the game for the actual game want it to be fun and interesting to actually play. People who play the game for the aesthetics are primarily concerned with how different and unique they look in comparison to other players/characters, how many glamours they get, how many pets of varying types they get, how visible their pets are to others...

Person who cares about gameplay: "Wow, that Dreadwyrm trance stuff looks really great. Maybe this rework will finally make SMN as in-demand as other jobs in endgame."

Person who cares about aesthetics: "No new egis? Still not as big or bigger than player characters? How are people supposed to pay attention to me from across the map? RIP my job"

That's not to say aesthetic elements aren't important, but it's one tiny facet of the whole picture- clearly taking a backseat to gameplay. Because when your gameplay sucks, your game fails. SEE: FFXIV 1.0

[Galand]

I'm glad they are fleshing out egis. It seems like most people here care more about the "looks" of the summoner and the lore then actual gameplay. I want the class to be complex and have a high skill ceiling, I don't give two hoots about what pets are summoned. If there is a best pet, I'll just use the best pet. If we have to swap pets to do more dmg, I'll do that. I don't care if they call them iffy or titan or if they look like a cloud. As long as the gameplay is good then I'm happy with the job.

Cool thats YOUR opinion and your entitled to it, Iam more upset that they stated they were re-working the class which sounds like a overhaul of its mechanics but instead they changed the name of a spell and give you 30 seconds to play with some direct damage abilities and no new egis.

I thought summoners were supposed to be a pet class that uses pets to do damage and interacts with them to do so.

[Malevicton]

Boycott the game. SE clearly just rushed summoner again. Betcha the only reason summoner was put in was to shut the fanboys up with something.

Boycott the game so summoner gets what it needs.

If all the summoners boycott the game the only effect will be the rest of us finally having some peace and quiet. Also, maybe faster dungeon runs

[Mugiawara]

I want Egi glamour for the expansion... not later... may we can change Garuda for Ramuh / Ifrit for Levi and Titan for Odin or something.... i dont care if u just change the "visual effects" but skills remain the same...

How about.

Ifrit - Levi. [Short Range.]
Garuda - Ramuh. [Long Range.]
Titan - Odin. [Tank.]
Then you pick which appearance you wanna use.
To save hotbar spaces you change the visual of some with the same skills.
I could deal with that too.

[Imoye]

And they didn't even bother updating the current models.

That's pretty outrageous all in all considering how little effort it would take.

[Galand]

I want Egi glamour for the expansion... not later... may we can change Garuda for Ramuh / Ifrit for Levi and Titan for Odin or something.... i dont care if u just change the "visual effects" but skills remain the same...

Right? we go to new egis at level cap to no new egis at period, but hey in the "future" you might get glams for them, when is this "future", why is it not in launch of the expansion since no new egis are.

[TruebladeNuke]

Has there been a single moment in the entire history of Final Fantasy MMOs where summoners weren't crying about something?

Not that I know of. I've been hearing nothing but complaints from them left and right since I first joined this game. Personally, I think SMN is fine gameplay wise. Anyone who says otherwise probably has no idea how to bring out the full power of the job... or you know... only care about the SMN's lore, and not the gameplay balance itself.

Personally, I'm glad the Egis are being meshed out on. I'm also rather excited to hear about possible egi-glamoring in the future, along with being able to channel Bahamut's power now. I'm going to have SO much fun with SMN... once I get around to it after PLD, DRK, etc, and all.

[AdamFyi]

I am more upset that they stated they were re-working the class which sounds like a overhaul of its mechanics but instead they changed the name of a spell and give you 30 seconds to play with some direct damage abilities and no new egis.

We were only given info of the new skills, and nothing related to any of the current abilities and if they were adjusted as far as I can tell from watching the stream. It's too early to make assumptions. New Egis would be redundant as hell seeing as you can only summon one at a time. Players would just flock to the 'best' summon to use and ignore the rest. Reskins and glamouring over the current Egis is apparently in the works, so look forward to that.

Personally, the new skills for the SMN look great and I am pretty excited to try them out once Heavensward hits.

That's pretty outrageous all in all considering how little effort it would take.

Define 'little'.

[Gralna]

They could really make SMN like every FF before X, and just have them be glorified black mage spells, that do super high dmg, and have a super long cast time. Good luck though doing anything harder than dungeons, when your only way to do dmg is to stand still for 5 min while your cast bar fills up.

[TheFatHousecat]

I want Egi glamour for the expansion... not later... may we can change Garuda for Ramuh / Ifrit for Levi and Titan for Odin or something.... i dont care if u just change the "visual effects" but skills remain the same...

We've been waiting 2 years for the API and addon support. Egi glamour was just announced. Today. Literally.

Settle down, snowflake. You'll get it when it comes.