RIP summoner

[Zohar_Lahar]

explanation wasn't very clear, and I could be wrong, but what I gathered, they said there won't be anymore new roles (melee/ranged/tank), but they'd be expanding on those roles, and basically giving us new skins and animations for those roles, possibly having carbuncle?

So would Shiva-egi use staff or bow for ranged slot?

[Rhaja]

Personally I'm excited they went with this route. Adding more Egi's would have been a stupid move that wouldn't have added to SMN at all. The SMN's in this game are mages that channel the power of primals. Now not only are we having a constant aspect of a primal to help us fight, but we're channeling power from Bahamut in a more direct fashion. I honestly can't wait to see how they expand on this idea.

And just to be that guy, Warlocks never got any extra pets over the years, just reskinned pets. What class does this oddly emulate again?

[Natsuno]

Umm... why was this moved to the JP dps subforum o.O

edit: thanks for moving it back to EN, mod <3

[Geaux]

Man some of you are the biggest crybabies.... You get amazing buffs and a freaking Ahk Morn but you wanna complain about an egi that was gonna be average at best and you know it.

Applying all 3 dots at once for great burst utility.... Are you guys kidding me ???

Grow up people. We got handed something great..... I'm super excited to play my Smn.

You could be anticipating Dark Knight only to find out they don't out tank Pld or out Dps War......Plus not informed from there what they actually bring to the party.

Actually godlike abilities > an egi skin that does auto attacks and lack luster abilities.

Make the current Egi's better > get more of the average in 1-2 more summons......



Once you realize this , you'll feel better.




P.S. We have Ahk Morn.

[Sen_Terrechant]

Hey your and individual too, you automatically assume because iam pro summoner not being a crap class that i want to summon Bahamaut and run around the city with him. I simply want the class to be fun and get some new egis and not stare at the same lame pets for another 2 years.

You dont even have SMN unlocked.

[xxhieixx]

Really? This is why SMN's are upset? You guys don't play other MMO's do you? Or you at least don't understand basic game concepts. I agree with them not adding summons, what's the point? You have a tank pet, ranged, and melee....not sure what you guys want. How would the other summons differ in any way? You think other MMO pet classes sit there and add a million pets? How would they all be different? I'd love to hear the thoughts behind this...

I've been completely disappointed with this class this ARR came out, I was THRILLED with the changes. They needed to focus on completely reworking the class and they did, I can't wait to actually play SMN now and hopefully enjoy it.

[Spellbinder]

Really? This is why SMN's are upset? .........I've been completely disappointed with this class this ARR came out, I was THRILLED with the changes. I agree with them not adding summons, what's the point? You have a tank pet, ranged, and melee....not sure what you guys want. They needed to focus on completely reworking the class and they did, I can't wait to actually play SMN now and hopefully enjoy it.

I will try it out for myself, if only because Summoner has been my only job since release, but all I've ever really wanted was more interaction between the Egi and the DoTs we use. I guess I'll have to keep dreaming...

[xxhieixx]

I will try it out for myself, if only because Summoner has been my only job since release, but all I've ever really wanted was more interaction between the Egi and the DoTs we use. I guess I'll have to keep dreaming...

I can understand this but adding more Egi's wouldn't solve the problem, that's something SE has to rework in terms on how you actually use your pet. All this would do is add a duplicate Titan, Ifrit, and Garuda that look different

[Tannlore]

More egi's isn't the answer we need now. I think what they are doing is the right thing. Is it disappointing? Sure, but this trance system is pretty snazy. Maybe we'll get more things through it.

[Kabzy]

Maybe they should just rename the job to 'Channelers' or something.

I agree that Summoner got some amazing stuff, but unfortunately the whole image people have of the job, based on the entire franchise, is being able to summon a variety of cool looking things. It's not much of a Summoner if it's not acquiring more Summons, regardless of how useless said Summons may be. So I do kinda feel bad for the Summoners.