RIP summoner

[Duelle]

History of FF mmos?! There are only two, and summoners are fine in 11

Considering your class the last time around was basically "sub WHM, never summon because your avatars suck outside of Astral Flow" until the lv70 blood pacts were introduced (which meant instead of sucking all the way to 75, you just sucked from 1-69), were largely irrelevant outside of burn parties and weren't even considered for endgame until Alexander and Perfect Defense entered the game, I'd say you're still much better off with what XIV's summoner brought. Let's not forget you couldn't do anything in between Blood Pact timers and were designed to be inherently inefficient with MP. Also keep in mind that summoner in FFXI was this way for about 8 or 9 of its 13-year life.

I do have to ask SMN main players: Do you think adding abilities to current egis and just letting you change the look of the egis is better than adding new egis in-game? The fact they're going this route so early in the life of SMN tells me they're not going to add Levi/Ramuh/Shiva egi and just let you change the existing three egis to look like them. I could be (and pray that I am) wrong, but that's what it looks like right now.

Here's the mandatory WoW comparison chart for those who think you can't add egis to the game as is:

Tank Pet - Voidwalker (WoW) - Titan-egi (FFXIV)
Melee DPS Pet - Fel Guard (WoW) - Ifrit-egi (FFXIV)
Caster DPS Pet - Imp (WoW) - Garuda-egi (FFXIV)
Crowd Control Pet - Succubus (WoW)
Debuffer/DPS Pet - Fel Hunter (WoW)
AoE/Damage Aura Pet - Infernal (WoW)

[Valoiz]

Here's the mandatory WoW comparison chart for those who think you can't add egis to the game as is:

Tank Pet - Voidwalker (WoW) - Titan-egi (FFXIV)
Melee DPS Pet - Fel Guard (WoW) - Ifrit-egi (FFXIV)
Caster DPS Pet - Imp (WoW) - Garuda-egi (FFXIV)
Crowd Control Pet - Succubus (WoW)
Debuffer/DPS Pet - Fel Hunter (WoW)
AoE/Damage Aura Pet - Infernal (WoW)

Ideas
Titan= Tank egi
Ifrit= Melee Egi
Garuda= Nuker egi (increase DoT duration) / Need better look
Ramuh= DoT Egi (add an extra DoT u can Bane)
Shiva= Ranged Egi (bow) + Bind (freeze) stuff and apllly heavy
Levi= AoE egi (place water pool) for big pulls

+Give SMN a Swiftcast only to change egis
"Tri-Bind" still suck if they dont reduce mp cost/casting/increase power at least to Blizzard II level
"new tri-dissaster" still suck if only apply the 3 DoT by sacrifice 1 fester/ bane

Is easy to make every pet usefull and valuable part of the team. Dunno why SE cant see it

[Mugiawara]

Personally, I think SMN is fine gameplay wise. Anyone who says otherwise probably has no idea how to bring out their full power...

Yet there has been countless threads about SMN desperately needing a rework for almost 2 years.
So.............

[Galand]

Yet there has been countless threads about SMN desperately needing a rework for almost 2 years.
So.............

This^, all day

[ThirdKeyOfSun]

Truth be told, as long as they do indeed allow us to "skin" the summoning types (melee, caster, tank) to be a different same type Egi/Carbuncle I think I am fairly okay with all of this.

Granted I am assuming they might add small visual differences to the pet abilities to go with said skins (with same potency and effect of course) but with skins, an expanded and more finely tuned pet role and Akh Morn I do think I can continue to look forward to and enjoy Heavensward as a summoner main.

[Zaft]

... yoshi said it all ... no new smns ... RIP

Oh no, now we won't have new egis to ignore and only use Garuda-Egi.

[lololink]

Oh no, now we won't have new egis to ignore and only use Garuda-Egi.

Apparently they talked about giving carbuncle back, maybe they plan on putting new egis as skins only ?

[Atreides]

Oh no, now we won't have new egis to ignore and only use Garuda-Egi.

Who in their right mind still uses Garuda? It's all about Ifrit. D:

[Alistaire]

Who in their right mind still uses Garuda? It's all about Ifrit. D:

Maybe they haven't played since 2.1?

[Iromi]

Oh no, now we won't have new egis to ignore and only use Garuda-Egi.

Naw, they need to be more innovative and figure ways to make them situational and useful. That is why they are developers..and we are not.