RIP summoner

[Arcsol93]

They don't care about cool effects or mechanics or even overall job strength/balance. To them, no planet-sized egis = summoner is a waste of a job and Yoshida has personally insulted each and every one of them to the very depths of their being.

Speak for yourself. I wanted to fuse with the primals and I got my wish, I just didn't expect us be able to fuse with bahamut xD Can't wait.

[Shinun]

Ya but they get Fusion

[Iromi]

Yeap..if you thought there weren't any now..hahaha...

So disappointed....

[TheFatHousecat]

Has there been a single moment in the entire history of Final Fantasy MMOs where summoners weren't crying about something?

[TruebladeNuke]

Has there been a single moment in the entire history of Final Fantasy MMOs where summoners weren't crying about something?

Not that I know of. I've been hearing nothing but complaints from them left and right since I first joined this game. Personally, I think SMN is fine gameplay wise. Anyone who says otherwise probably has no idea how to bring out the full power of the job... or you know... only care about the SMN's lore, and not the gameplay balance itself.

Personally, I'm glad the Egis are being meshed out on. I'm also rather excited to hear about possible egi-glamoring in the future, along with being able to channel Bahamut's power now. I'm going to have SO much fun with SMN... once I get around to it after PLD, DRK, etc, and all.

[Gralna]

They could really make SMN like every FF before X, and just have them be glorified black mage spells, that do super high dmg, and have a super long cast time. Good luck though doing anything harder than dungeons, when your only way to do dmg is to stand still for 5 min while your cast bar fills up.

[Galand]

History of FF mmos?! There are only two, and summoners are fine in 11, they actually Summon, summons. I can't believe you guys are so close minded that simply because we don't kneel down and agree with your view on the class that makes us insane. The class boils down to being a poison mage with a auto attack pet.

How can you assume because people are complaining about the class and its mechanics, that we arent playing it correctly, that has nothing to do with any of it.

[AdamFyi]

There are only two, and summoners are fine in 11, they actually Summon, summons.

When you boil right down to it, the FFXI summons are just glorified pets too.

[Gralna]

History of FF mmos?! There are only two, and summoners are fine in 11, they actually Summon, summons. I can't believe you guys are so close minded that simply because we don't kneel down and agree with your view on the class that makes us insane. The class boils down to being a poison mage with a auto attack pet.

How can you assume because people are complaining about the class and its mechanics, that we arent playing it correctly, that has nothing to do with any of it.

How is it close minded to prefer something original, to something that is a clone of something that came before it? If anything people who are fine with smn as they are, aside from a few mechanical tweaks find it funny how outraged people get about something as silly as pet appearance The most vitriolic comments I tend to see, come from people crying about how SMN isn't a clone of it's XI counterpart.

SMN in FFXIV is a dot based pet class, get over it, it's been this way for over a year now, the class has already been rebalanced around that playstyle for 3.0, they aren't going to change it, no matter how loud you cry, scream or throw a fit.

[Mugiawara]

What gets me is people are arguing to someone who wants a summoner to actually be just that...and not a DoT hero.
It's like a crazy idea or something. New skills do look cool, won't lie lol.