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    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamFyi View Post
    Pet abilities were not even talked about extensively in the Live Letter. They only mentioned about adjusting them to make it so that not only one Egi gets used because it completely overshadows the others. So, please don't jump to conclusions until we get an official announcement or get the actual patch notes (which they are going to read out soon).
    "During development, we thought long and hard about this, but we will not be adding new egi at this time. Looking at the long-term, instead of adding more pets, we felt it better to give more use to the job by adding actions to summoner. However, I’m sure many are wondering if they will have to continue looking at the same egi forever, but we are planning to add a system in the future that will allow you to change the appearance of your egis, including Carbuncle, but their stats will remain the same. "

    Doesn't mention anything about adding or reworking current egi pets. Just more actions to summoner.
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Well hopefully the new pet abilities will be nice
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    Rhaja Foxtail
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    Personally I'm excited they went with this route. Adding more Egi's would have been a stupid move that wouldn't have added to SMN at all. The SMN's in this game are mages that channel the power of primals. Now not only are we having a constant aspect of a primal to help us fight, but we're channeling power from Bahamut in a more direct fashion. I honestly can't wait to see how they expand on this idea.

    And just to be that guy, Warlocks never got any extra pets over the years, just reskinned pets. What class does this oddly emulate again?
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    Tsubasa Katsuragi
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    Umm... why was this moved to the JP dps subforum o.O

    edit: thanks for moving it back to EN, mod <3
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    Last edited by Natsuno; 05-22-2015 at 05:16 PM.

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    Geaux Getta
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    Man some of you are the biggest crybabies.... You get amazing buffs and a freaking Ahk Morn but you wanna complain about an egi that was gonna be average at best and you know it.

    Applying all 3 dots at once for great burst utility.... Are you guys kidding me ???

    Grow up people. We got handed something great..... I'm super excited to play my Smn.

    You could be anticipating Dark Knight only to find out they don't out tank Pld or out Dps War......Plus not informed from there what they actually bring to the party.

    Actually godlike abilities > an egi skin that does auto attacks and lack luster abilities.

    Make the current Egi's better > get more of the average in 1-2 more summons......



    Once you realize this , you'll feel better.




    P.S. We have Ahk Morn.
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    Last edited by Geaux; 05-22-2015 at 10:47 AM.

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    Kitsune Liz
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    Really? This is why SMN's are upset? You guys don't play other MMO's do you? Or you at least don't understand basic game concepts. I agree with them not adding summons, what's the point? You have a tank pet, ranged, and melee....not sure what you guys want. How would the other summons differ in any way? You think other MMO pet classes sit there and add a million pets? How would they all be different? I'd love to hear the thoughts behind this...

    I've been completely disappointed with this class this ARR came out, I was THRILLED with the changes. They needed to focus on completely reworking the class and they did, I can't wait to actually play SMN now and hopefully enjoy it.
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    Last edited by xxhieixx; 05-22-2015 at 10:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxhieixx View Post
    Really? This is why SMN's are upset? .........I've been completely disappointed with this class this ARR came out, I was THRILLED with the changes. I agree with them not adding summons, what's the point? You have a tank pet, ranged, and melee....not sure what you guys want. They needed to focus on completely reworking the class and they did, I can't wait to actually play SMN now and hopefully enjoy it.
    I will try it out for myself, if only because Summoner has been my only job since release, but all I've ever really wanted was more interaction between the Egi and the DoTs we use. I guess I'll have to keep dreaming...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spellbinder View Post
    I will try it out for myself, if only because Summoner has been my only job since release, but all I've ever really wanted was more interaction between the Egi and the DoTs we use. I guess I'll have to keep dreaming...
    I can understand this but adding more Egi's wouldn't solve the problem, that's something SE has to rework in terms on how you actually use your pet. All this would do is add a duplicate Titan, Ifrit, and Garuda that look different
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxhieixx View Post
    Really? This is why SMN's are upset? You guys don't play other MMO's do you? Or you at least don't understand basic game concepts. I agree with them not adding summons, what's the point? You have a tank pet, ranged, and melee....not sure what you guys want. How would the other summons differ in any way? You think other MMO pet classes sit there and add a million pets? How would they all be different? I'd love to hear the thoughts behind this...

    I've been completely disappointed with this class this ARR came out, I was THRILLED with the changes. They needed to focus on completely reworking the class and they did, I can't wait to actually play SMN now and hopefully enjoy it.
    How did they "completely rework" the class just by adding new stacks to manage and let us use a stack to apply all dots at once? Spell speed affecting dots is more to look forward to than anything else that has been revealed for SMN today, at least for me.
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    Yosuke Hanamura
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Farrell View Post
    How did they "completely rework" the class just by adding new stacks to manage and let us use a stack to apply all dots at once? Spell speed affecting dots is more to look forward to than anything else that has been revealed for SMN today, at least for me.
    Instant-AOE and burst potentiel thanks to Tri-Disaster + Bane, plus a stance that lets you use new powerful abilities instead of spamming Ruin ad nauseam, plus new abilities to spice up our rotation even more, plus not-yet-revealed changes, both to us and our pet. Yeah, where's our rework !
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