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    Halvaard_Vidan's Avatar
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    Halvaard Vidan
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    Too much, now too little. AutoAttack

    Yes, there's probably umpteen dozen of this thread already but I felt like I probably have a somewhat different opinion.

    When I started 14, I enjoyed it because it was different. It wasn't perfect, but it was okay. I'd played 11 and a few other MMOs, and 14, while borrowing from a few, was fairly unique.

    Manual attacking kept you busy and was to a certain extent fun. You could easily decrease your damage output by slowing your attacks and weaponskills. Had the emnity system been working properly I would have enjoyed this system. BUT due to continuous button pressing, it also make anything but Voice Communication during battle very inconvenient.

    Now, with Auto-Attack, there is no control. There is only eying the TP bar, waiting for your next WS and hope you don't pull hate. At least we can type now but at the cost of an interesting battle system.
    //Not to say it doesnt help some classes like GLA and PUG. For classes that need TP AND to be watching for certain events or other timers, autoattack is quite helpful.//

    I would have preferred a hybrid system. Select a non TP attack to be repeated every so often, with the ability to speed up or slow down at the cost of stamina, with some weaponskills requiring TP and stamina to use.

    Stamina didn't need to be abolished, it just needed a more creative use than effectively limiting our TP gain.

    I just hope that 14 doesn't continue to slide toward generic-ness.
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    Last edited by Halvaard_Vidan; 09-10-2011 at 02:49 AM. Reason: GLA + PUG

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    Now, with Auto-Attack, there is no control.
    Speak for yourself. It's quite easy to control whether you are auto-attacking or not.

    As a Gladiator, it's a huge relief to have Auto attack. Huge relief. Lets me focus on doing my job, and not spamming a button I would have been constantly spamming anyway.
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    Most games are going toward more active combat system. Polls suggest 60% of MMO players want a more active combat system, and perhaps the nature of MMO combat is one reason most gamers aren't MMO players. So it is strange to see SE revert back to the antiquated FFXI modality rather than try and fulfill their vision.

    My biggest problem with the active combat system was the timer/cooldowns aswell as stamina (a combat system doesnt need two methods of delay!) and also the server unresponsiveness, which still persists even now in congested areas.


    edit: by the way, if you want the poll I cited, it's on http://www.mmorpg.com/features.cfm/view/polls
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    Last edited by User201109011315; 09-11-2011 at 02:31 PM.

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    Rinoa Lilieu
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    I like the way it was before Auto attack was implemented. Now it feels as if you have no control over your character.
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    Medura Bloodspiller
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    Auto-attack don't work for archer, auto-attack does so i cant be a marauder. Auto-attack in itself doesnt work, what do you mean about control? Shooting arrows once every 3 seconds is so much better than throwing a rock every 8. We need the abillithy to ATTACK as for example marauder, with controller i need 30 seconds wait between use of a skill ... id rather USE the attack in auto-attack than having to wait xD or if we could have an attack button to start attack.
    About stamina, it was the worst system ive ever seen, im glad we went to cooldowns instead.
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    Wait, they got rid of stamina? I guess I'm not very observant when I play. =)
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    Siorai Aduaidh
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    Since we now have auto attack, I wonder if it wouldn't be a bad idea to reintroduce the old (accuracy/power) meter for TP moves.

    It could use a bit of an update, but I think it would add some nifty interaction to our high-end attacks.
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    Zant, That's a great idea. I like the look of that meter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    Speak for yourself. It's quite easy to control whether you are auto-attacking or not.

    As a Gladiator, it's a huge relief to have Auto attack. Huge relief. Lets me focus on doing my job, and not spamming a button I would have been constantly spamming anyway.
    I don't play GLA or PUG often, forgot about how AutoAttack does help them. Edited OP. =]

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    Luna Sushima
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    All you have to do when you want control of Auto-attack, is Press C then Boom your Locked on to the Mob and you won't be dancing around with a stick in the air ^^.
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