[To Devs] Transferring FC to upcoming EU datacenter

[Aldora]

Some people have already stated this, but these are basically the rules as stated on the Lodestone Optional Services page:

How to use the World Transfer Service

Step 1: Confirm Your Eligibility

The following conditions must be met before using the World Transfer Service:

• You must be logged out of the game.
• Your character cannot be enlisted in a free company, holding a free company petition, or signed to a free company petition.
  * If enlisted in a free company, your character must leave it before applying for World transfer.
• Your character cannot be undertaking the special quest "The Ties that Bind."
• Your character cannot have a reservation pending for a Ceremony of Eternal Bonding.
• Your character cannot be in possession of a blank invitation or a ceremony invitation.
• Your character cannot own housing on their current World.
• Your character cannot have items for sale on the market.
• Your character cannot have items entrusted to the Calamity Salvager NPC.
• Your character must retrieve all optional items delivered via the moogle delivery service.
• Furnishings removed from your character's private chambers must not currently be in the possession of the Resident Caretaker NPC (as a result of your being discharged from a free company).
• Your character must rehire any retainers carried over from Version 1.0.
• Your character must be logged out outside of any instanced areas including dungeons, residential areas, and the Ivory Chapel.
• If you have purchased a character name change, the option must be available on the character selection screen.
• You must possess an active service account for FINAL FANTASY XIV.
• You must have characters present on your service account.
• The character you wish to transfer must be at least three days old.
  More than three days must have passed since last using the World Transfer Service.
• Your service account cannot be suspended due to a violation of Terms of Service or a hold on the account.

Furthermore, characters can only transfer 1 million gil, while retainers can only transfer 100 thousand gil. Please be aware that excess gil will be lost.
* Depending on economic conditions, the amount of gil that may be transferred with a character may be subject to change.

Since you are not allowed to be in an FC in order to be eligible for a transfer, it will not be possible to transfer the entire FC to a new server, unless you leave the FC first. But, in order to leave the FC, you will have to demolish your private room first (if you have any).

After the transfer, you will have to recreate the FC, thus starting from Rank 1 with 0 Company points and no plot of land.

Also, every player is responsible for transferring his or her characters, so if you want to transfer an entire FC to another server then be sure to talk it over with your fellow FC members and coordinate with them. You can always place a message on the Company Board saying that you are planning on transferring the FC to said Server/Datacenter. Not everyone might be interested in transferring to another server anyway.

The gil cap is indeed 1 Million and 100k for each retainer you own. In order to be able to have a similar amount of money after the transfer, he or she would have to buy items which will maintain their value after transferring. For instance, the Allagan Bronze/Silver/Gold Coins.

When it comes to FC Airship building. The most logical answer with how the transfer procedure works at the moment, would be that you can collect the parts in order to assemble the airship and keep them in your inventory until you’ve transferred to the said server/datacenter. As long as you don’t assemble the Airship, you should be fine.

As we come closer to the actual release of Heavensward, more information should be available in regards to the EU Datacenter. But, i personally believe that the same restriction would still apply, so if you still want to transfer to an EU server be sure to coordinate it with your fellow FC Members.

[VarinaVashai]

But, i personally believe that the same restriction would still apply

Thats all true. But those are restrictions under normal circumstances. Had they provided the EU players and others that want to play on an EU server on the release of ARR, the fc and all that follows would have been a non issue. Seeing how that was not the case and we have played the entierty of ARR's lifespan on an NA datacenter, we have had to deal with that "inconveniance" for a very long time. And a new datacenter for EU etc is not normal circumstances, the playerbase that wish to move to that center on its release should have the benefit. Of moving their FC and all that follows to the new center, so that they can finnaly start to enjoy the experience as it was intended.

Those that are waiting for the eu datacenter should have high expectations and demands on the migration.

[Aldora]

Thats all true. But those are restrictions under normal circumstances. Had they provided the EU players and others that want to play on an EU server on the release of ARR, the fc and all that follows would have been a non issue. Seeing how that was not the case and we have played the entierty of ARR's lifespan on an NA datacenter, we have had to deal with that "inconveniance" for a very long time. And a new datacenter for EU etc is not normal circumstances, the playerbase that wish to move to that center on its release should have the benefit. Of moving their FC and all that follows to the new center, so that they can finnaly start to enjoy the experience as it was intended.

Those that are waiting for the eu datacenter should have high expectations and demands on the migration.

In all fairness, considering the state the game was in when they were working on ARR, they weren’t in the position to offer separate Datacenter for the EU. In order to “accommodate” to the European players, SE advised players to transfer to a specific server so that people would be able to play with other in their own EU timezone. Nothing more.

I’ve seen plenty of people transfer to the EU server(s) to be able to play with people in their own timezones, but i’ve also seen plenty of people (from all over the world) sticking around on the NA server(s) so that they can play with the same people they’ve befriended since the introduction of the NA Datacenter. That’s their choice.

Also, keep in mind that we don’t know how SE will handle the whole EU Datacenter situation. Will the current EU Servers be transferred to the new EU Datacenter? Very much likely, but they haven’t shared the details yet.

So, the people who actually transferred to the EU server(s), when SE gave the opportunity to transfer for free, “should be fine” until told otherwise. When the new EU Datacenter is released, you can expect SE to give players the opportunity to transfer to that new Datacenter as we did when the NA Datacenter was introduced.

Be careful with your expectations and don’t get them too high. Expecting that you can transfer your character to the new Datacenter for free sounds reasonable enough, but don’t expect that you will be able to transfer anything else then what is mentioned on the World Transfer page.

In all honesty, i’m 99% sure that we won’t be able to transfer an entire FC to the EU Datacenter. A few reasons for that being:

• Not everyone might want to change servers. So, it’s up to the player whether or not (s)he wants to transfer or not. It’s not up to the leader of the FC to decide to transfer the entire FC to a new server, dragging along its members. The FC Members need to decide that for themselves.
• The housing plots are limited, so you can’t simply expect that the plot you have/want will be available when the world opens up for transfer.
• SE also has to keep the economy of each server in mind when opening up a server for transfer. The economy of each server varies greatly, which is one of the reasons it took so long for the players from Legacy servers to transfer to non-Legacy servers. To make sure that “we” didn’t flood the server and take control of the economy, leaving no room for new players to “settle in”.

[HulveinBlitz]

They will not whip up new servers, in the EU.

They will simply move the servers listed as EU, to the EU.

Maybe you'll get 1 new server added to the EU bracket, but thats all. I cannot see them offering up free transfer, when it clearly stated what is EU, and what's not. If players opted to build their players elsewhere, and remain there... all I can see SE doing is profiting from all those player who will want to move to real EU servers.

PS: Expecting to transfer a whole FC, for free... surely you jest?

[VarinaVashai]

In all honesty, i’m 99% sure that we won’t be able to transfer an entire FC to the EU Datacenter. A few reasons for that being:

• Not everyone might want to change servers. So, it’s up to the player whether or not (s)he wants to transfer or not. It’s not up to the leader of the FC to decide to transfer the entire FC to a new server, dragging along its members. The FC Members need to decide that for themselves.
• The housing plots are limited, so you can’t simply expect that the plot you have/want will be available when the world opens up for transfer.
• SE also has to keep the economy of each server in mind when opening up a server for transfer. The economy of each server varies greatly, which is one of the reasons it took so long for the players from Legacy servers to transfer to non-Legacy servers. To make sure that “we” didn’t flood the server and take control of the economy, leaving no room for new players to “settle in”.

Your assesment is true to some exstent.

I dont have any expectations towards SE and the dev team, i dont have an FC house or alot of money deliberatly to deal with further inconvenience.
I do have a sliver of hope that someday the game will be a much better gaming experience. And if i personaly have to pay to transfer ill pay the price without blinking. It doesnt mean i dont understand other ppls wish for the service being offered to move them their fc and all their belonging to the new datacenter, and i think they are right to ask and expect that.

Regardless of what the expectations and hopes that ppl have, we should still press for high expectations and a very demanding migration to the EU datacenter when it is released.

If you take a broader perspective when thinking about the move from the horrendous launch of FFXIV into the remake and the launch of ARR, it was still a terrible gaming experience for some european players,
(i will not say all european players, there are those that are happy with the current latency and there is no problem.) the minset of im fine thefor everything is fine as demonstrated below.
(I dont have other ppls problem therefor other ppls problem dont exist)
Its acctually i dont have other ppls problems but the problems do exist and i can acknoledge that.

So with that in mind a horrible gaming experience in FFXIV and in ARR for "some" european players, it would seem only fair that once the EU datacenter is launched, the inconvenience that part of the community has endured shouldnt be further punsihed by unreasonable restrictions.

Economy is not a good reason to put restrictions on the players in the first place, the economy is bad. That is the work of rmt, bots and more importantly the work of dishonest players that use the rmt service aswell as bots. And logic allows us to assume that there are many players that use the rmt service, without customers the rmt wouldnt be able to stay afloat.

But Aldora you are right, one shouldnt get to high expectations and hopes. I think that you should plan for the worst prepare for it, but still demand what should have been available a long time ago, even when the demand is to meet the high expectations. And to want to end further inconvenience, enjoy a good gaming experience.
We all love Final Fantasy, even if we disagree on many directions.

[Shadray]

I think the Gill restriction is a good thing, if you suddenly get a FC transfer to a newer server, all having 500mil+ it would be horrible for the economy. Though I expect the RMTs would love it as more people would buy Gill in order to keep up.

[Felis]

So with that in mind a horrible gaming experience in FFXIV and in ARR for "some" european players, it would seem only fair that once the EU datacenter is launched, the inconvenience that part of the community has endured shouldnt be further punsihed by unreasonable restrictions.

The canadian EU severs will be most likely transfered 1:1 to the EU datacenter.
Every EU player not already on a EU server decided himself against joining a EU server.

[Craiger]

They will not whip up new servers, in the EU.

They will simply move the servers listed as EU, to the EU.

Maybe you'll get 1 new server added to the EU bracket, but thats all. I cannot see them offering up free transfer, when it clearly stated what is EU, and what's not. If players opted to build their players elsewhere, and remain there... all I can see SE doing is profiting from all those player who will want to move to real EU servers.

PS: Expecting to transfer a whole FC, for free... surely you jest?

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If you're on an EU-recommended server right now, you will most likely not have to do anything when the real EU servers come... Cause all data will be transferred to the new servers. Maybe they will add another new world too like Hulvein said.

They might offer free transfers to the players that want to leave the EU servers(non-EU players), and there might be some free offers to transfer from NA to EU servers, but I doubt there will be any way for you to keep everything like it is right now.

Only way that's possible, is if you transfer players from the same server, to a completely empty server...(which is whats happening for players on EU-recommended servers) You can't just transfer everything from players on different servers.

If they add a completely new and empty EU server, then you might see them change the transfer restrictions some, but there is no way you could keep all your data, especially FC housing.

I'm sorry to say, but while there was no reason to play on an EU-recommended server before, SE did recommend it after all, and gave players plenty of opportunity to change, like others have mentioned. Those servers were meant primarily for EU players, so if you're from EU and don't choose those worlds, you have nobody to blame but yourself I'm sorry.

If there ever were coming real EU servers, they would be replacing the EU-recommended ones, and that's why you should have played there.

[LalaRu]

I don't see the reason to give free transfers to people that gone to an EU datacenter for its own convenience, well knowing they were EU-dedicated worlds.

Now that the convenience is gone for them, they will have just to... deal with it.

[VarinaVashai]

The canadian EU severs will be most likely transfered 1:1 to the EU datacenter.
Every EU player not already on a EU server decided himself against joining a EU server.

Ok first of all its not an EU server, its an Canadian server that has a world labeled recommended for european timezone users. So when new players with no connection to the audience allready on a server, can choose a server that will remain lively during what is considered the time of day that is peak for the european >timezone<. This however does not make it an EU server. Its only an attempt to ensure a healthy lively population at a particular time of day, so that the new players are not face with a wasteland.

I have yet to have the opertunity to be presented with an EU server as an option, if i had i would allready have taken it. And so would everyone else that is waiting for the EU servers.

Now understand EU server, and Canada Server: EU timezone recommended world is not the same.