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    ManaKing's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Convict24601 View Post
    I sometimes wonder if I'm the only person who actually really enjoys Summoner the way that it currently looks/plays/is.
    Nah I think it's fun too. The only reason there aren't more SMN is because BLM is just so good. I don't want BLM nerfed btw just you know Ahk Morn!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    The problem with Yuna is that when the summon is out she doesn't do anything at all.

    Now this is not the direction ff14 summoner went. FF14 summoner is a warlock, a dot based class with a pet.

    Yuna is essentially a druid, not in form, but in function - each summon is a different form and swapping summons is changing forms. So this is a completely different direction that they did not go into. Now whether or not you feel that is more fun, idk, but there is no chance in hell they are completely scrapping the current warlock type caster for a druid type caster. It might come in the future, but will probably be blue mage or beastmaster.
    I doubt they will go with the other archetype because while the summon was out, you were shielding your party with the summon. Unless they make some AMAZING reworks to how Titan/Summon 2 works (which I would love) the Egi's aren't designed to effectively shield or tank in a raid situation.

    The changes with Dreadwyrm are much more akin to FF1-FF9 Summoner where it comes out and goes boom, while the Egi are really just your strongest DoT spell. Persistent though they may be, I don't disagree that Egi are very different than FFX, FFXI or FFXII Summons. Those Summons all made bigger impacts than the current Egi, but none were actually persistent with the exception of XI inside Abyssea. They were all very temporary. As a DPS, burst is important but not at the expense of total damage. And currently burst might be coming in the form of Ahk Morn.

    Time will tell, but I think they are doing the best thing they can do for SMN. Opening up Glamour to Egi is probably the smartest thing they can do to be able to appease and entertain as many people as possible.
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    Last edited by ManaKing; 05-24-2015 at 05:34 AM.

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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Still waiting on my Metallic Purple...
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Convict24601 View Post
    I sometimes wonder if I'm the only person who actually really enjoys Summoner the way that it currently looks/plays/is.
    I enjoy the job design as well so you're not alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lun4tic View Post
    If new/altered models aren't in the budget, selling them as optional items should recoup any costs associated with creating them.
    No thanks.
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    Not a bad idea, certainly defeats the "art budget" argument.

    I'd possibly pay for my titan to look like fat chocobo, or garuda to actually look like garuda.

    Alternatively, I'd also pay for their Enkindles to actually look like enkindles. Make Ifrit do hellfire. Garuda can do...idk, garuda isn't in like any recent FF game, some sort of Typhon's attack or something. Titan can do table flip. Carbuncle should do ruby light (ps give SCH enkindle [heal] too, it would be awesome).
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    I use SMN on my alt and I gotta say idm the look of the egi's, I just wished they were less "glowy" Like if the titan egi looked less like chicken nuggets and more like boulders similar to the adds in titan extreme. Maybe even use the same textures as the Pirmals themselves.
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    So this is a topic since Day 1.

    tl;dr: noone can agree on what SMN is. If YOU think SMN is all about big flashy summons, so be it, but that is certainly not the only interpretation.

    tl;dr2: optional items is a good idea because 1, noone has the same opinion of "most thematic" SMN and 2, it ensures art budget isn't wasted.
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    The problem with Yuna is that when the summon is out she doesn't do anything at all.

    Now this is not the direction ff14 summoner went. FF14 summoner is a warlock, a dot based class with a pet.

    Yuna is essentially a druid, not in form, but in function - each summon is a different form and swapping summons is changing forms. So this is a completely different direction that they did not go into. Now whether or not you feel that is more fun, idk, but there is no chance in hell they are completely scrapping the current warlock type caster for a druid type caster. It might come in the future, but will probably be blue mage or beastmaster.
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