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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    In what way is it a raid if it's done solo? The very definition of a raid is multiple people exceeding the standard group size laying siege to an enemy. If it's soloable, it ceases to be a raid.
    SPECIAL solo dungeons I can get behind, maybe akin to Maat from XI. DCUO did these types of things and it works pretty well. Basically imagine harder versions of our Job quests. The rewards aren't great, maybe no more than doing a map would be (Maybe it could be the new form of alexandrite maps!), but they're still prizes.
    This is a multiplayer game. There is and will always be plenty of solo content, but there should ALWAYS be things locked behind group content, otherwise this would just be a single player game.
    I understand your post, but I don't think you understand my post.

    Like I said, I do not think they should make baby versions of raids where you get whatever loot you want and experience the full battle mech. etc. Just a soloable version for story purposes, and to be able to experience the full raid at your own pace. I know what the term "raid" means, but I am not referring to the act of playing with lot's of players, I am referring to the content at which you play normally with a raid.

    Again, there is nothing wrong with options, and MMO's always provide updated content that you don't get with regular RPGs. Even adding soloable versions a while after everyone has had their fun with the reg. raid version.
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    Last edited by PEANUT; 05-20-2015 at 08:30 AM.

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    There should never be solo raids or dungeons in a mmo. MMOs are designed to be played in groups. XIV is already way way way too focused on solo/lowman everything.

    If people want to play solo they need to stop playing mmos and stop asking for things that have no place in a multiplayer focused genre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    There should never be solo raids or dungeons in a mmo. MMOs are designed to be played in groups. XIV is already way way way too focused on solo/lowman everything.

    If people want to play solo they need to stop playing mmos and stop asking for things that have no place in a multiplayer focused genre.
    Did you even read my post? Or just saw the title of my thread and decided to vent a little?
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  4. #14
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    whats a mmorpg?Massively multiplayer online role-playing game, your probly better off playing a single player if u wanna solo dungens
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    Quote Originally Posted by PEANUT View Post
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    And like I said, since this goes against their design philosophy, they're simply not going to do it unless content becomes horribly outdated (and they've mentioned working on NPC mercenaries for that purpose)
    You will not have soloable, current story content in this game, because of that philosophy.
    If that's what you want, there ARE games that allow you to do so, such as Neverwinter and Vindictus (sorta in the latter case) but this isn't that type of game.

    INDEPENDENT solo instances with their own goals and such, though, are definitely possible.
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    SWTOR added solo flashpoints(aka dungeons). There is so much doom and gloom on their forums I'm not sure how to absorb it all. People on SWTOR's forums try to say every MMO forums have 20+ "this game is dying" threads a day but they clearly have never visited FF14's forums. I enjoyed the solo modes in SWTOR tbh, but only because I no longer see SWTOR as a MMO. Solo modes take the MM out of the MMORPG... IMO.

    If the devs want to add solo modes to this game, I suggest they add them now before people can interpret them as the game is dying/the devs are desperate to keep players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    There should never be solo raids or dungeons in a mmo. MMOs are designed to be played in groups. XIV is already way way way too focused on solo/lowman everything.

    If people want to play solo they need to stop playing mmos and stop asking for things that have no place in a multiplayer focused genre.
    "Never." Be careful with categorical statements like that! There should be some. For inclusiveness and things to do. There can be both solo and group raids. SE has the resources to develop both. If MMOs were designed to be played in a group, why is my character solo upon creation? MMOs are designed to do whatever the developer designs them to do. And absent solo and low-man options, you will have people clamoring for them.
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    Last edited by NattyExe; 05-20-2015 at 09:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    There should never be solo raids or dungeons in a mmo. MMOs are designed to be played in groups. XIV is already way way way too focused on solo/lowman everything.

    If people want to play solo they need to stop playing mmos and stop asking for things that have no place in a multiplayer focused genre.
    As much as I agree with you, past content ( pre-expansion), Should be soloable, because alot of people will be doing Heavensward content to even care about the base game content. 1-50 pre-prae should have a soloable option. 2.1-2.5 instead of 8 man extreme primals, make it 4 man. Heavensward content same as it is now.

    That's how I feel.
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    Just unlock skills so everyone can use them.
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  10. #20
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    For story purpose yes...

    I have a friends from 1.0 who casually play FF14 but still not finish T9 yet.
    All this happening because the community mmo that are supposed to play together but don't want to help her.
    I'm thinking about helping her via DF this weekend, hoping there is still queue for that.
    If not I hope that FCoB after heavensward are available even for 2 players.
    I'm a new player so I know the pain that nobody want to help you with the content then you need to struggle alone.
    Everyone only focused on FCoB and their static, even with the 15% echo still cant full equip yet huh...

    If everyone wonder if she from 1.0 why she still hasn't finish T9 yet, well there is a player like that who enjoy the quest, Lore, chatting. Raids is not the main core for Mmo, the main core is interaction and community.
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