Thread: About 3.1 Relic

Originally Posted by Gilraen

Completely unrelated to the discussion, but Avast has flagged me that this picture or the site it's hosted on is infected. Might want to link a picture from a different site.

Ditto, I got the same alert.

I really don't get how Relic is getting 'tossed aside'. It's the best weapon you can have (after Novus) right now and will be until at least the first major patch of Heavensward. It's not going to be 'just for glamour' when Heavensward hits because noone's going to be able to start in on Mythic till around level 60 (if the Relic quest is any indicator) and we have no clue how long that'll take. All the masochism in this thread is disturbing. So far the weapons have been following the same trends as XI, with Relic and Mythic being different weapons obtained in different ways. Just be glad that they didn't go whole hog with them. Relic in XI required you farm Dynamis for ancient currency as well as synth difficult to craft weapons for use as fodder while Mythic needed you delve Nyzul Isle to it's deepest depths.

I have Novus right now and im debating whether to finish it but to be fair if I do finish it it wont bother me in the slightest when i get a new weapon in heavensward, NO ONE has forced us to grind these weapons it was completely optional and nobody OWES you anything.

But if all we get after spending millions of gil and countless hours into it is a "easier" start to the new relic grind then i will feel very sad indeed and most likely wont be going for the next relic.

I always figured this is how the current relics would end. I mean, the progression of this game is VERY vertical, and it's designed from the ground-up to be accessible for new and returning players. It wouldn't make sense to continue the current relics and eventually build an access quest that would require new players to grind through the entire quest chain. By resetting the quest, the new relic remains accessible to people who start playing at HW.

For this reason, I only pursued a single relic, and I didn't spend too much on the uber 1337 materia for my stats. I had a great i135 weapon, and now I'll get to use it for a bit in HW, and then it will be a glamor piece... and I'm totally cool with that.

Lesson learned, though, for everyone else who saw fit to grind out multiple relics and dump millions of gil into them.

Let's look at SE's track record in FFXI. FFXI raised the cap many times but only three level caps ever mattered; 50, 75, and 99. Relics became relevant at 75 and most people were unable to obtain them due to the cost, people, and time required for said items. Mythics were made as an alternative and for newer jobs. Once SE said they were raising the cap again people were legitimately concerned that weapons that took millions of gil and man hours to make were now worthless. SE assured that relic/mythic would make a come back with an alternative in the form of Empyrean. Relic did in Fact make a comeback with the i119 gear as did the other two weapon forms. Relic and mythic are even easier now than they ever have been considering the loosening of restrictions on related events. In short....you have nothing to worry about. I guarantee that whatever the 3.0 relics end up being, that they will tie into the 2.0 relics.

I guarantee that whatever the 3.0 relics end up being, that they will tie into the 2.0 relics.

Yoshi-P has already confirmed that 2.0 relics will be completely replaced by new relics in 3.0. The only connection is that 2.0 relic holders will get head starts in the quest chain.

But that's the thing... nothing about this game's design hinted that relics would be handled in any other way.

Originally Posted by Thayos

Yoshi-P has already confirmed that 2.0 relics will be completely replaced by new relics in 3.0.

Actually pretty sure it is said in 3.1 or 3.2, it will still be relevant come 3.0

And on topic true SE did not have to offer a "shortcut" which btw i don't think was even confirmed just speculation but they also did not have to nerf the questline either.
Some of us who did Relic before Pre Nerfs had taken over 4 months just for atmas alone, many many hours of fates, drop rates for dungeons were horrid (still are) so i can see how some can say "entitlement" but at the same time those calling those out most likely have only spend a fraction of the time for their relic. Some players took weeks, some months, etc.. The system was not at all balanced were as progression= Luck which i suppose was almost the same as those trying to get dreadwyrm weapons i guess. I think moreso it would just be a nice gesture should they gave those of us who suffered for relic, lol