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  1. #1
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    Elusana_Celah's Avatar
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    N'ico Yazawa
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 74

    My horrific experience with a master craft recipe

    So I invested all kinds of time and gil to get my crafting gear and I got perfect stats for goldsmith to do 4 star and beyond, 395 CP with food.

    I'm like ok, I got 1 million gil it's time to tackle the master recipe so I can start crafting platinum accessories:

    I immediately say damn these fieldcrafts cost 40k each and I need 2 and it takes forever to farm my own since my desynth isn't super good on anyone just goldsmith has a 20% chance to succeed with something that can yield a fieldcraft III.

    So I ask my crafter buddy who is 4 star in all crafts about rotations since I didn't want to waste gil, he links me Caimie Tsukino's rotations for this stuff. I'm like ok good.

    I load up all the cross skills I'll need for these rotations, eat my food, verify my stats are perfect and they end up being well beyond what was recommended for these rotations. Score!

    I begin my first craft, 2 failed piece by piece in a row... ok... Caimie doesn't say what to do after you fail these cuz he/she assumes you don't fail a 90% chance twice in a row I guess. I decide to carry on with the rotation so I can feel it out just once and I compensate the 20 durability loss and redo the piece by piece with steady hands II.

    Whelp I proceeded to fail 6 out of 8 of the hasty touches I could use... at this point I just use reclaim and try again... I lost my ingredients with reclaim.

    Ok... I'm like bad luck. I start over the next one, Piece by Piece succeeds twice, good... no tricks proc... ok I keep going with my Steady Hands II, hasty touch / rapid, rapid fails, rapid fails, rapid succeeds, I get 1 hasty touch, other fails... no procs... I hit master mend II... one proc.

    I'm too CP starved to really do much so I just hit Hasty Touch hoping for another proc so I could use reclaim, it never happened, synthesis failed, lost my ingredients.

    --------- This bullshit luck continued on and on and on until I now sat at 90k gil starting with 1 million and I did not succeed with a single synthesis.

    At this point I found myself so angry that my whole body tensed up and I felt murderous rage wash over me, my face was on fire.

    I exited the game. A game... it's just a game. A game that relies heavily on RNG and I am a person who is naturally unlucky. It takes me longer to get things done here due to my bad luck than it does some other people, but losing 910k gil without anything to show for it...

    I want to hear that I'm not the only person who finds crafting to be unplayable due to being a naturally unlucky person so that I can feel better about myself. I sure as hell am not going to do that recipe again.

    Oh look forum character limit. Hey SE, why don't you just move your forums to Twitter if you want to discourage discussion on your forums.
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  2. #2
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    Gilraen's Avatar
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    Actually, we on the US forums are to blame for the character limit (it's a long story). As for your story... sucks, and the luck needed in crafting is nightmarish (people getting HQs off 20% but rarely 90% is tales of legend... that'd be funny if it wasn't true). All anyone can say is, "Better luck next craft." Don't give up, though, your crafting is your major source of income. Capable of earning more than any dungeon runner can ever hope to.
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    Dankyrtrach Ubyltusyn
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Knowing my luck i would have the same issue..

    Sorry for your loss.
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    Magis's Avatar
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    Magis Luagis
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Actually, we on the US forums are to blame for the character limit (it's a long story).
    Oh? Care to explain what happened?
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    Oh? Care to explain what happened?
    From what I read, people incited in massive flame wars, trolling, and other nonsense during the beta (dunno if from 1.0 or pre 2.0), which caused Square to slap down the post and character limits.
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Omega
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Reasons why I gave up crafting before even 2star... I do have a friend who's told me quite a few such nightmare stories of his own adventures in crafting. But yeah, bottom line is, this multiple RNG gating on top of having to have everything maxed out and ridiculously overmelded - it's bulls×××. You get the skills, hells, you even get the gear, you sacrifice hours and hours of your time and millions of your gil, to still only have just a chance at succeeding... And you keep sinking more and more of your time and money into it, the process itself is not even fun or challenging anymore - but hey, at least there are others around you who do one tenth of what you did and get their stuff no problem... Maddening.

    And it does drive people away from the game in general, make them actually hate it. Said friend of mine is just one such example I know of.
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    Last edited by BreathlessTao; 05-20-2015 at 01:21 AM.

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    Chibilidawg's Avatar
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    Conleth Cirino
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    So much pure RNG is really annoying.
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    Last edited by Chibilidawg; 05-20-2015 at 01:14 AM.

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    CGMidlander's Avatar
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    Height Error
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 90
    A 910k loss is a minor setback.
    You'll recover from it soon enough.

    Better luck next try o/
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    Chrillix Khross
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Well I haven't read the crafting guide you refer to, relying on two 90% piece by piece's followed by a bunch of rapid synths is just terrible. Using that method/rotation, you opened yourself up to the onslaught of RNG way more than you needed to.

    Next time I suggest trying to figure out a better method on your own. 99% of the time, crafting guides that people post online are garbage.
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  10. #10
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Machinist Lv 80
    You shouldn't be ever failing PbP...unless you tried to do it without SHII for whatever reason. Unless CP restraints call for it, you should never do hasty touch without SHII. What are your crafting stats? If you have enough craftsmanship you don't even need PbP (allowing you to save an extra cross skill slot for BSM and LTW) unless you want those guaranteed hits at the cost of CP.
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