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    Player aerolol's Avatar
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    Baron Eduardo
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    Goblin
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    Casters have been nerfed way too much. Buff them back and nerf bards.

    ANYTHING that hits you interrupts you as a caster, unless you have a healer that keeps you adloq'd or stoneskin'd.
    Which... doesnt happen very often with DF randoms.

    Sometimes it ends up that i have to scathe spam only, because all PvP skills are on cooldown and i can't cast anything at all without being spammed with arrows from god knows where.

    Swiftcast damage is halved. This is a very big handicap, even more so due to the kinda long swiftcast cooldown.
    Surecast goes down the moment you start casting, and you can still be interrupted mid-cast, wasting this skill.

    People will run through you or get out of range, and your cast will say INTERRUPTED only after you finish the cast. This is even more aggravating when you are experiencing lag.
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    Player aerolol's Avatar
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    Bards, on the other hand, must be nerfed ASAP.
    They are way too overpowered against casters, healers and melee DPS.
    They have way too many DPS increase buffs from PvE, which should all be nerfed for PvP just like all caster stuff is severely nerfed on PvP.

    Bards can also instant recover 20-30% of max HP with the PvP skill Recouperate, and can also recover even more HP with Second Wind, while out of melee and casting range, but still attacking and interrupting everything you try to cast (unless it's Scathe or Bio).

    Recouperate should not be able to be used by bards at all. Leave that to melee only since melee have to deal with way more risk than bards, who can be far away attacking and healing themselves.
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    StrejdaTom's Avatar
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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    Ragnarok
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    Bard Lv 70
    Ummm.... ha ha ha ha ha?
    Nerf bards? Really?
    ha ha ha ha ha.

    Ok, I am just probably a bad bard, because the only class I can kill in 1 v 1 is BLM and most probably a healer. Other classes just fork me up.
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    Good casters and good bards are a gigantic threat, bad casters and bad bards are generally a non-issue and in some cases you can literally ignore a bad bard

    There are a gigantic amount of casters that just try to blindly attack things and then complain when they wasted their oGCDs and are being interrupted, they dont understand the concept of setting themselves up to allow freecasting.

    Bards dont normally have the luxury of building vitality without losing damage, a blackmage can build vitality which allows them to still kick out a staggering amount of damage and be extremely tanky at the same time
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    Stouter Taru
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    It varies by instance, mainly because of how many other people you have around you. In 4v4, BLM is horrid to play, quickly built up resistance to bind and sleep, easy to get picked off. Secure is a little better, but once a melee/brd has their sights on you it's annoy and run away time. Slaughter casting is not an issue because there are so many people packed together in a small space that nobody can single you out and shut you down.
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    Garu Dyne
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    Scholar Lv 100
    This thread is a joke right?
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    Aislin Delhir
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeopower6 View Post
    This thread is a joke right?
    You're surprised that this is the kind of experience a casual player who is a caster would have in Frontline, a mode supposedly meant to appeal to casual players? Obviously it only appeals to hardcore PvP players (or... no one), but since it's trying to get casual people in there, this is how they are going to feel about it. I'm 0% surprised, and don't blame the players a bit. Anyone would see this coming a mile away.
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    Player aerolol's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    You're surprised that this is the kind of experience a casual player who is a caster would have in Frontline, a mode supposedly meant to appeal to casual players? Obviously it only appeals to hardcore PvP players (or... no one), but since it's trying to get casual people in there, this is how they are going to feel about it. I'm 0% surprised, and don't blame the players a bit. Anyone would see this coming a mile away.
    Well...
    I'm not a caster main, but i like playing BLM as a secondary/tertiary job.

    Also, I don't really like nor fit in this casual vs hardcore labels...

    But since you are being kinda blunt and labeling people, I'd like to point out that by looking at your lodestone profile and seeing that you are a "Poetic Princess"...
    Without even any high allagan casting accessory... while still having a few lv110 soldiery pieces that are not BiS....
    I'm quite sure I know who is the casual here, if we have to label people...
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Buff Paper.
    Nerf Scissors.
    Rock is fine.
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Whilst BLMs may have some potent AOEs to justify their difficulty in casting anything, SMNs most certainly don't yet still live with all the problems BLMs have. SMNs also have zero crowd control outside of Tri-Disaster (which gets broken by someone else the moment you cast it anyway) which leaves them with little means of actually securing any breathing room for safe casting. Couple that with the severe and entirely unjustified nerfs to pet damage and the removal of the slow debuff from their miasmas and SMNs are wet noodles in PvP outside of their Fester spike every 20s or so (and good look killing anyone with that spike when they can see it coming a mile off by the stacks of DOTS piling on them).

    Something DOES need to be done about casters in PvP. SE made a kneejerk reaction to BLMs being OP when frontlines first released and they haven't properly addressed PvP balance at all since then. For one thing, the auto-interrupt from physical hits on casters HAS to go. Every physical job has a stun or silence of some kind to deal with casters. They do NOT need to have every hit be a guaranteed interrupt on top of that.
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