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    Quote Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos View Post
    I don't think you read the topic. No one is pulling off of me. They are pulling before I even do the initial pull. And I do mark targets.
    That's what we are saying. if you are waiting long enough for them to feel the need to pull ahead of you, you are probably waiting too long to pull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    That's what we are saying. if you are waiting long enough for them to feel the need to pull ahead of you, you are probably waiting too long to pull.
    I have to stop a second to mark targets. That's hardly enough time to warrant acting like you're the tank, by "you're" I mean those that are doing this, not you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos View Post
    I have to stop a second to mark targets. That's hardly enough time to warrant acting like you're the tank.
    ah, you stop to mark separately. okay, that makes sense. If I might make a suggestion, a certain macro helps a lot (assuming MRD/WAR, if PLD replace with "shield lob"):

    /macroicon "tomahawk"
    /marking attack1 <t>
    /ac "tomahawk" <t>

    Generally, if you are running in and overpowering and using your combo, you shouldn't need to mark more than the first target anyways, mainly because by the time the first target dies, you will already have a pretty big head start on agro for both the other enemies.

    That way, you don't have to stop, mark everything, and then gear up to start attacking separately.

    Hope it helps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    ah, you stop to mark separately. okay, that makes sense. If I might make a suggestion, a certain macro helps a lot (assuming MRD/WAR, if PLD replace with "shield lob"):

    /macroicon "tomahawk"
    /marking attack1 <t>
    /ac "tomahawk" <t>

    Generally, if you are running in and overpowering and using your combo, you shouldn't need to mark more than the first target anyways, mainly because by the time the first target dies, you will already have a pretty big head start on agro for both the other enemies.

    That way, you don't have to stop, mark everything, and then gear up to start attacking separately.

    Hope it helps!
    Thanks, I never thought of that. Only downside is that I would need 2 tomahawk slots, one with marking and one without because if I need to tomahawk a mob that joins mid fight or if I happen to lose aggro, then it would be weird to change mark to one I'm trying to get aggro back on.

    EDIT: I'm on PS4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    ah, you stop to mark separately. okay, that makes sense. If I might make a suggestion, a certain macro helps a lot (assuming MRD/WAR, if PLD replace with "shield lob"):

    /macroicon "tomahawk"
    /marking attack1 <t>
    /ac "tomahawk" <t>

    Generally, if you are running in and overpowering and using your combo, you shouldn't need to mark more than the first target anyways, mainly because by the time the first target dies, you will already have a pretty big head start on agro for both the other enemies.

    That way, you don't have to stop, mark everything, and then gear up to start attacking separately.

    Hope it helps!
    What she said. Posted literally 4 minutes before I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos View Post
    UPDATE: So I think I'm done tanking after having nothing but bad experiences.
    You have to be able to turn off your normal self and become:




    Quote Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos View Post
    I have to stop a second to mark targets.
    In all honesty in low level stuff even post 50 this is not required. In fact I never do it and in all the instances I have run only one person has asked that I do this. Low level stuff at this point is being steamrolled, marking is all but useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    In all honesty in low level stuff even post 50 this is not required. In fact I never do it and in all the instances I have run only one person has asked that I do this. Low level stuff at this point is being steamrolled, marking is all but useless.
    I second this. Marking is a waste of time. At low levels it doesn't even matter if you lose aggro to a dps or healer as long as you keep most mobs on you. At higher level the single target dps should be pretty experienced at attacking the target you tomahawk and you'll have a solid lead on the remaining targets. Just pull faster and dps won't have time to pull ahead of you.

    Don't take stuff so serious. It's a game. It doesn't matter if you don't keep everything on you 100% of the time. Just do your best and you'll clear no problem.

    Also, tomahawk won't get mobs back to you. It's emnity generation is very low.
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    It's funny you should mention this. I do hests on my main + alts all the time for the roulette (Healer, BRD, DRG, other archer.... recent alt MRD). I rarely see someone take off without the tank as much as I did last night.

    I just recently started getting into MRD. I found it a little less bland than GLAD once I got passed my fear o_O; (always felt like Flash = safe, Overpower felt more finnicky, since I'd been tanking glad on my Hyur alt)
    Lazily got my Balmung alt nub up to WAR off and on while on staycation and didn't have problems with this happening. Not a single time.

    Decided to put that practice to good use last night and just transfer that fun times to my main character on Couerl so I can also be with FC when I play MRD/WAR.
    First three hests I go into - DRG and WHM just run in without me like I didn't exist. (I stood there debating on just letting the DRG have it all... But decided not to sink to their level and to at least try to do my job).
    NIN runs in and does the same thing.
    DRG does it again in third hest.
    This was all in a row since I was sorta spamming the hests (as I'd gotten MRD to 17 some other time, ages ago).
    I was -highly- unamused.
    Only had one hest where someone didn't take off without me or (in the very first hest instance where theres two mobs seperated) run to the complete other mob while I'm pulling a different one. That one time they didn't, I just kind of stood there waiting for them to go into a full flail run the moment the barrier lifts, ready or not.

    It was like they all came out in full force last night.
    Only had one good experience out of four/five hests and two dungeons since I tried leveling MRD on my main.

    Maybe my alt is just more like-able on visual contact. ¬_¬
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    Last edited by Saseal; 05-20-2015 at 06:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    That's what we are saying. if you are waiting long enough for them to feel the need to pull ahead of you, you are probably waiting too long to pull.
    That doesn't matter. If you think the tank is too slow, than ask him if he can pull faster, especially since he said he's new to tanking. Don't just freaking rush in. It doesn't matter if the mobs are "easy" and you think you can "handle" it, its just rude as hell. If the tank ignores you then you can be a childish prick if you want to.

    Personally, I have NEVER encountered this but I haven't done low-level dungeons in forever.
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