Raids: The Unwritten Rule?

[Musashidon]

nope roll on whatever you want, participate or not. need or not. everyone is entitled to the loot that drops.

[Craiger]

Sorry you had to experience that, but that guy and the others you mentioned, are just douche-bags that you should ignore...

When you raid in higher difficulty raids (Coil right now), then the "rule" is to at least respect what other players want, and not just roll on it unless you have checked with others, but if it's an upgrade for you, then you have all right to roll.... And all that doesn't even apply to WoD. Just roll on everything you need.

[Kikoten]

It was just a belt, pretty much. It wasn't something huge and flashy like a robe or a hat. I didn't start running WoD actively until I found out I could get a good weapon with poetics, so I guess I'm technically still new to raiding.

[Demyx]

Many times on my Dragoon when i was getting him geared up I lost out to other Dragoons that didn't need it, but did so anyway, but I never once complained about how it was unfair and they didn't need it.

I got the feeling that I would've never got an apology from them either so I just rolled with it. That healer sounds as though he is a drama queen and he would've done it to a different healer anyway. Try not to worry about it, don't let him ruin your gaming time :3

[Caoihmin]

If the gambled loss of digital doodads serves as the catalyst for rage quitting and offensive language, then the need for checking oneself into a gaming addiction treatment program is in order.

Folks, there is a much bigger and alarming picture here regarding how gaming has become a substitute for true fulfillment that only real life can offer.

[AdamFyi]

So my question is this: Do raids have an unwritten rule, where if you join a group in progress, you can't roll on upgrades? Is it considered "stealing" to outroll someone?

RNG is RNG. It shows no mercy; no exceptions.

Since it looks like both of you could Need it, it's safe to say that you out-rolled the other healer and won the loot fair and square. Unless the other healer asked if you could pass on a certain item upon your entry, I don't see a problem. Considering what the other members had said, it's most likely that the other healer had asked the previous healer that had abandoned if they could have the belt. Needless to say, either the healer did ask you about it but was probably lost in the chat box without you noticing, or he just didn't bother to say anything.

[Sakei]

Your whole group was a bunch of douche bags. Roll need on anything you do actually need for an upgrade.

[Selli]

Personally, I do not roll on a piece of loot if I didn't participate in the fight. It would have been better to ask the other healer if he/she wouldn't have minded you rolling against them, normally I don't have a problem with "if you're that class, go ahead and roll on it" but when you had 0 participation in the fight, the courteous thing to do would have been to ask.

This situation really depends on your personal morals. I don't believe in taking what I didn't earn... at least not without asking first.

[EDIT] Wow, I missed a whole paragraph of the post. I should really learn to read better. orz

If you healed the fight, yeah you're entitled to any loot you want. If the other healer was waiting for a specific item to drop, they should have said so between bosses. I've joined WoD runs only needing 1-2 other pieces of loot and I'd see the same class as me and just being like, "Hey. I'm only missing this piece from here, mind if I get it if it drops? I'll stick around the whole fight and anything else that drops is yours, man." will get a far more positive response than having a hissy fit like your other healer did.

[JimboTCB]

If it's a DF group and you can roll need on something, you can roll need on it. That's the only rule there is, written or unwritten, and anything else people claim is a rule after the fact is just stupid bullshit to justify a tantrum over being out-rolled.

Totally different issue if it's a premade group via Party Finder with loot rules agreed in advance, but you don't invent rules for DF groups.

[LaylaTsarra]

There is no unwritten rule. You have as much right as anyone to roll on it. Ignore those who would even prepose to tell you, you don't.