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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teryaani View Post
    It is. They are doing something but it's the equivalent (in terms of effectiveness) of trying to put out a forest fire with a squirt gun. SE has shown a real knack for social engineering in this game. I'm surprised they haven't gotten a better solution than what we have now.
    The powers that be don't experience the same issues we do. To the devs, the weekly sweeps do their job perfectly, even if they're made aware that it doesn't help other servers. Remember Yoshi-P's response about Titan and needing to zoom out the camera to survive mechanics caused by the lag? LOL! RMT primarily target NA/EU servers, though not just because its the most profitable. It's because they know better than to overly bother the servers that devs themselves frequent. The last time they did that, which was during launch of 2.0, SE took large scale action against them. Unless you experience it firsthand, and over a course of time, you won't understand the severity of any matter. Granted though, that initial action was absolutely intolerable to the MMORPG experience of a paid subscription service, irrelevant to what servers you use. If it wasn't through /shout flooding messages every millisecond, it was /tells being flooded every millisecond.

    Obviously, right now is nowhere near as bad, but it is slowly picking up as more time goes on. SE will have to take appropriate measures into hand sooner than later. Then again, the devs are impressively naive when it comes to QoL and consequences of player/consumer freedoms.
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 05-16-2015 at 06:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    The powers that be don't experience the same issues we do. RMT primarily target NA/EU servers, though not just because its the most profitable. It's because they know better than to overly bother the servers that devs themselves frequent.
    Yeah, there have been a number of threads about how the JP servers aren't really seeing this problem. The consensus was that it's a mix of reasons that it happens, but the result is the same - the game devs don't see it.
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    Nothing happening, eh? I guess it's because they're not being more public about it like Arena Net was with that pvp cheater, but then, neither is Blizzard. Blizzard will only say "x amount of accounts for cheating were banned". Also, speaking of Blizzard, the staff that they have allocated to different features of World of Warcraft alone is many times bigger than the staff that SE has allocated to Final Fantasy XIV.

    The anti-cheating staff for FF XIV has to thoroughly investigate every single report because they don't want to accidentally ban someone whom was maliciously reported by a troll. Because if they just banned or suspended every single reported account, then there would be a slew of threads filled with people saying that their account was wrongly reprimanded. So dealing with the rmt and botting and cheating takes a painfully long time.

    So patience, patience. Not even Blizzard is always capable of doing something immediately.

    Right now, I'd just settle for an easier method to report and mute spam bots (so I don't have to empty out my blacklist so frequently).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post


    Seriously, there's 2-3 new threads about this daily... -.-
    Maybe if SE actually did something we wouldnt be getting so many threads.
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    Last edited by Lilyarel; 05-16-2015 at 06:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teryaani View Post
    Yeah, there have been a number of threads about how the JP servers aren't really seeing this problem. The consensus was that it's a mix of reasons that it happens, but the result is the same - the game devs don't see it.
    The bots and RMT sellers are on the JP servers just as much as they are on the other servers. The only difference is that there they do not spam/send whispers/send friend requests...because they know better than to shake the hornets nest in the owners' back yard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noshpan View Post
    Most of us aren't saying that they're doing nothing. What we're saying is that what they're doing isn't stopping the spam. Because it isn't. Botting and gil selling is going to keep happening, I think most of us just want the being bothered to stop.

    Quote Originally Posted by SummerSkye View Post
    The bots and RMT sellers are on the JP servers just as much as they are on the other servers. The only difference is that there they do not spam/send whispers/send friend requests...because they know better than to shake the hornets nest in the owners' back yard.
    I think that's part of it. They do send /tells on JP servers, but only in text swapped English to defeat the filters and it's much much more rare. I suspect that it isn't as lucrative to advertise that way which is exactly where I wish we could get on NA/EU servers. In other conversations about this, it's been made perfectly clear to people that players on JP servers buy gold. It's just marketed differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    That only shows how serious the situation is.
    No, it just shows how many people want to be a special snowflake and have their own thread about it. What's wrong with using existing threads to talk about it instead of cluttering the forums with a ton of different threads? Spamming the forums to complain about spam ingame is pretty meta. xD

    Quote Originally Posted by Teryaani View Post
    Most of us aren't saying that they're doing nothing.
    This particular thread has "nothing being done" in the title, so...
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 05-16-2015 at 06:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    This particular thread has "nothing being done" in the title, so...
    And the OP is wrong to say it like that. Nothing effective is being done.
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    I feel like they are doing what they HAVE to, to mkae it seem like there trying to fix it. But jp servers have no issue with RMT and I dont see a big fix coming .. ever. It is what it is. Maybe when they add addons theyw ill have a built in anti botting program but thats just wishfull thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teryaani View Post
    In other conversations about this, it's been made perfectly clear to people that players on JP servers buy gold.
    Yep. Go make a character on a JP server. Then search for level 50 BLMs. You will see the same army of "Sasfdsg Kldsalld" type names just like on any NA server. The people that say that it is not an issue on the JP servers are simply wrong. That being said, what bothers me most about RMT, is that they deter new players that are trying this game from taking it serious or subscribing. No other subscription based MMO has this level of spam. I know friends who have came out of their initial cut scene to a wall of spam from RMT. Not good. This game, like any MMO, needs new players coming in.
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