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    BRDs came about from Gridanian archers. The story goes that the Archers of Gridania are trained to observe everything in battle and never miss a thing as the role of the archer is to attack the right place at the right time to turn the flow of a battle. This also meant that the archers had to watch the slaughter of battle, the deaths and the tragedies unfold without ever looking away. Having seen so much, to cope with it some sought to express the pain of see all this through song. So some archers of Gridania began to sing in battle.

    The generals discovered that these songs had a positive effect on their soldiers and a negative effect on their foes. They inspired bravery and resolve in allies and doubt in enemies. Several armies tried hiring professional minstrels to provide the support but discovered their songs didn't have the same effect. The reason was simple. A bard must understand the pain and loss. They must be able to empathise with the experience so their songs resonate with their souls. This is the heart of where the power of their songs come from. That's why the Archer and Bard are tied together.

    That's roughly what I remember of the origins of the Bard. Moggles were thrown in their too a bit as Moggles understood the nature of the power of song and were great lovers of music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
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    Just to add to the scholar lore; Surito states he can no longer summon his fairy, Lily (a.k.a. Eos/Selene), after being turned into a Tonberry. Judging by him and all the other Tonberries (including Marberry) do not use any magic (that's not tied to the rancor) I think it's safe to say that the Plague of Nym removed their ability to use magic and that as of 2.5 their aren't any more SCH in Eorzea excluding the WoL.
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    Juyon Intoner
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    Paladins: OH MY GOD THESE PALADINS AREN'T ACTING VERY PALDINY HERE LET ME SHOW YOU HOW TO BE PALADINY -beats up Sultansworn-
    White Mages: Ok Forest is trying to make a choice of either destryong everything or being a chill elemt---DUDE YOU DID NOT JUST TRY TO DESTROY EVERYTHING -beats up Elementals-
    Bards: I...was born...to siiiiiiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING~!
    Dragoons: The Azure Dragoon stole the precious thing, are you a bad enough dude to get it back?
    Scholars: -staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarestabstaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare-
    Summoners: LOL ACTUALLY TIED INTO THE STORY BEFORE DRGs WERE LOL -EXPLOSIONS ҉ -
    Warriors: RAAAAAAWR I'm having an existensial crises GRAAAAAWR

    I don't really know much about the rest so nothin...
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    BLM: You're helping Ququruka (blm imprisoned in the Marasaja pits for 100 years, same place where Raubahn is now) redeem himself for causing his three beast tribe friends to die and get turned into a voidsent for using black magic recklessly. Your coming fulfills a prophecy they all discovered 100 years ago.

    SCH: You're helping the learned warrior Alka Zolka rediscover Nymian knowledge and artifacts. You learn that Surito Carito and fellow scholars fell to the rancor 1500+ years ago while trying to cure it, which originated from the sea. Nymians panicked and locked the sickened inside WP out of fear and hate.

    BRD: You're helping an old war hero put to rest his nightmares of breaking rank and having his companions killed during the Autumn War 80 something years ago. At first he helps you learn arts that moogles taught him, but you give him courage to face his demons.


    WHM: Padjals are having you re-trace A-Towa-Cant's footsteps in an effort to learn the elemental's version of white magic. People in the woods doing dumb things made the elemental of nihilism angry, and it's your job to take Kan-E's place with A-Ruhn and Raya-O to calm it down. There are only so many white mages because the original version of white magic from Amdapor is too dangerous to exist in large quantities, so the elementals limited to only padjals and you

    SMN: Y'shtola's sister Y'mitra is trying to rediscover Allagan summoning techniques, and you go on an adventure to take a piece of primals and make your own egi. Crazy summoner is also doing this, and killing researchers in Mor Dhona and other summoners, tryin gto gain power. He got corrupted by an ascian--people speculate that it was Loghrif because Tristan summons Belias-egi

    MNK: Erik is a learned man from Ala Mihgan that puts his life into researching the receeding aetherflow caused by the Calamity. At first he thinks you and your monk friend are idiots, but he realizes that Windargelt is trying to rally the Ala Mihgan resistance with the power of "chakra" (which Erik thinks is just aetherflow) and wants you to reason with the man. You pretty much take all opportunities from Windargelt to gain more chakra, and you turn into a final blockade between him and "success".

    DRG: Estinien stole the Eye because he thinks Alberic failed as an Azure Dragoon. You get picked to be special instead and that made him mad and pretty damn murderous. Somehow he survived and now we have to be friends.
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    Last edited by Dalvy; 05-17-2015 at 12:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    BRDs came about from Gridanian archers. .
    Wow thanks for summary. I haven't finished the bard storyline yet but man bards sound awesome. So that explains why archers sing songs. I hope more players know this and can appreciate bards and that more Bard use their songs.
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    I find it interesting that Jobs are always connected to a certain culture.

    AST: Sharlayan
    BLM: Unnamed Black Mage Civilization
    BRD: Gridania
    DRG: Ishgard
    DRK: Ishgard
    MCH: Garlemald (adapted by Ishgard)
    MNK: Ala Mhigo
    NIN: Far East (primarily Doma)
    PLD: Ul'dah
    SCH: Nym
    SMN: Allag
    WAR: Lohengarde
    WHM: Amdapor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalvy View Post
    DRG: Estinien stole the Eye because he thinks Alberic failed as an Azure Dragoon. You get picked to be special instead and that made him mad and pretty damn murderous. Somehow he survived and now we have to be friends.
    Estinien was on pretty friendly terms with us for the duration of the DRG Job Quests, up until the end when he was corrupted by Nidhogg and convinced that he needed to slay Alberic for the mistakes that ended up destroying his hometown - and even then, the only reason he fought with us is because we stood in the way of his revenge on Alberic. If we assume that Nidhogg's madness passed after we defeated him, there's no reason for him to not treat us cordially when we meet again. Or us, him, for that matter. We're forgiving like that.

    As for why the Ishgardians would be on good terms with Estinien in spite of the fact that he stole such a precious relic - well, they never new. Alberic kept the whole thing on the down-low to protect Estinien. I don't know if he was able to cover up the relic's theft, but he DID prevent people from learning that Estinien did it.
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