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    Donjo's Avatar
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    Parry is useless.

    DEF comes from left side gear and is based on ilvl.

    VIT accessories have extremely low value. Use your i110s VIT instead of wasting tomes on i120-130 VIT. You also now have a 15% HP in FCoB buffer making VIT accessories worth even less.

    If you really need i130 VIT accessories they are easily farmed in lower turns and have better secondaries then IW VIT accessories.
    Sir, you need to calm down. The previous poster said absolutely nothing about using Parry. Furthermore, Parry is not useless and such words should be saved for things that actually are. Fortunately, pretty much everything in this game has a use so that's pretty difficult to do.
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    Sir Taint
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Sir, you need to calm down. The previous poster said absolutely nothing about using Parry. Furthermore, Parry is not useless and such words should be saved for things that actually are. Fortunately, pretty much everything in this game has a use so that's pretty difficult to do.

    He said he preferred a DEF build. There are 2 defensive stats in the game. DEF and Parry. That is why I acknowledged them both. Parry is a useless stat on gear and DEF happens by default via ilvl.
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    He said he preferred a DEF build. There are 2 defensive stats in the game. DEF and Parry. That is why I acknowledged them both. Parry is a useless stat on gear and DEF happens by default via ilvl.
    Okay, then it looks like we're just thinking of things differently. I personally think of Vitality as a defensive stat so I assumed that "defensive build" meant "more HP" as nothing in the game is more effective at passively helping you not die after Level 50 than simply having more HP.
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    Makado Kitase
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Overall your best bet would be to have a set of Platinum accessories made and penta melded. This way you get a great chunk of STR, VIT, and secondary stats that are useful that you can choose (for the most part). Not only that, you also don't need to worry about getting a drop or spending tomes for any accessories and you will be able to do nice DPS while still having the HP to not ever worry about what your doing.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Don't get Plat pentameld, we're like a month away from expansion. Save your gil. Just use whatever VIT + STR accessories you can get.
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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Don't get Plat pentameld, we're like a month away from expansion. Save your gil. Just use whatever VIT + STR accessories you can get.
    Yes this. What a waste when the expansion is just a month away and everything will be replaced.
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    Belius Breaks
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    100% VIT, all the time, until you completely learn the fight, the mechanics and know how to mitigate all the big hits without having to overstress your healers. Echo or without echo. You will need all the HP you can get when you're learning something to survive things. When you want to min/max then you should consider STR accs.
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    Stox Diamond
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 60
    VIT is not mitigation. Parry and Def are mitigation. Parry and Def reduces the amount of damage you take. VIT does not.

    If you have 10K HP and take 5K damage, your healers will needs to heal 5K. If you have 8K HP and take 5K damage, your healers will still need to heal 5K. The damage is the same and was not mitigated. VIT is not mitigation.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoxastic View Post
    If you have 10K HP and take 5K damage, your healers will needs to heal 5K. If you have 8K HP and take 5K damage, your healers will still need to heal 5K. The damage is the same and was not mitigated. VIT is not mitigation.
    While VIT isn't "mitigation" per se, if you took 5k and then a crit auto for 3k you would be on the floor dead, whereas with 10k health you would have 2k health left. This is sort of the idea of reaching the VIT cap for X content, that VIT cap is technically a form of mitigation - if you don't reach it, you won't have the cushion HP to live comfortably from the big hits, and you'll die. So you're not reducing damage outright but you're reducing the chance that you'll fall flat on the floor. I don't recommend stacking excess VIT, but it's a good form of "mitigation" for bad healers.
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