Vote kick whole alliance wide, please.

[Sida]

This matter was brushed in another thread and I have personal experience of the problem as well. In normal party, vote kick needs majority vote. This is sensible, even if in 4 man parties, two friends is enough to abuse it but that's another matter. However in 24 man alliance 4 people are enough to hold everyone else hostage by their antics. While they are far from majority, there is no way for the other alliances repel such grievers letting them make the run miserable for everyone else.

[Chiramu]

This would be a "Vote Abandon" situation. If not, then you could leave and do something else for half and hour :/.

The only thing that really annoys me with 24 man raids is that there are so many leeches in party now. They enter in as DPS and slow down the whole raid, because they don't do anything and people don't care that there's this idiot getting the same return from the weekly as others doing their roles! Bit of a rant ><, but leeches piss me off more in this 24 man raids.

[SpookyGhost]

This would be a "Vote Abandon" situation. If not, then you could leave and do something else for half and hour :/.

Kind of a problem when 4 people in a 24 man raid can cause a Vote Abandon.

[Riepah]

Actually, they'd have to be 5 people. In 8 man parties, 4 votes is enough to get a person kicked.

[Sida]

This would be a "Vote Abandon" situation. If not, then you could leave and do something else for half and hour :/.

That is akin to suggesting that in 8-man content one player was grieving on purpose, the only thing they should do is vote abandon. However as it is now, the grieving player can be kicked out, without those other 7 who queued possibly near hour already having to go through that again. And yet, in the tower raids, if 4 person decide they get their kicks from being difficult, it would be fair to force the 20 out and to start again?

[Buff_Archer]

Reminds me of my ST run where 5 people joined together, one of them griefed other party/alliance members throughout the run to the annoyance of people throughout the alliance... another party member tried to vote dismiss them and the vote failed which was shocking up until I realized they had queued together, since they used their majority position in the party to vote me out (and probably one or two others) after wiping the last boss. I guess if you have a majority stake in a party you can do whatever the hell you want.

[StouterTaru]

Actually, they'd have to be 5 people. In 8 man parties, 4 votes is enough to get a person kicked.

I thought it was always a majority, not counting the person calling for it or the person nominated, ie 5 people to kick from 8 man, 3 people to kick from 4 man.

[Sida]

I thought it was always a majority, not counting the person calling for it or the person nominated, ie 5 people to kick from 8 man, 3 people to kick from 4 man.

Of 8 man, 7 people are voting since you can't vote on your own kick, same in 4 man, 3 are voting. So 4/7 and 2/3 respectively are the majorities.

[StouterTaru]

Of 8 man, 7 people are voting since you can't vote on your own kick, same in 4 man, 3 are voting. So 4/7 and 2/3 respectively are the majorities.

Then that is including the person initiating it, so 2 people could kick someone from a 4 man. I was under the impression it took 3 to boot the 4th in dungeons.

[Kaiser-Ace]

Of 8 man, 7 people are voting since you can't vote on your own kick, same in 4 man, 3 are voting. So 4/7 and 2/3 respectively are the majorities.

Actually, The person being "Judged" is not Counted. The Vote Starter is counted as number 1 with it taking two more votes in 4 man areas and 4 in 8 man areas. that leaves a grand total of 3 on 1 or a 5 on 3 minimum for an 8 man raid.

EDIT: I think that is what you said but I'll keep mine up for clarification sake.