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    Ferth Fontaine
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble View Post
    ok, if this game only aloud you to level 1 class, 1 craft and maybe 1 dol like most other mmo's out. would you say u even have a thing to do? in other game would you have happily made 20toons while waiting for content? the content they thrown at us so far is closer to that type of gameplay to boot. if u have lots to do or enjoying doing it u must not be playing more then few hours a week to begin with and cant' possibly see how crappy it is. yeah yeah stuff will be added. i can't wait to see it all myself too. i'ma be excited too, when it's all in our faces to see.

    i'm looking forward to the hamlets and ifrit and all that stuff don't get me wrong, and i'ma enjoy playing this game ..i think. but some of you seem way too deluted ..or the mmo worlds are in trouble cause u need to leave the forums lol,(jk,jk?) u might make the devs think they can get away with shotty empty mmo's and still charge us like idiots.
    There seems to be a schism between people who accept every announced change not at the value of the announcement but at some hidden value inherent in the word "change" itself and the people who have an idea of what a successful MMO should be... and can look at FFXIV and see what isn't there.

    It's a bit silly to me. If someone has even the most minor concern about an announced change or a feature already in the game they get labeled as a whiner and are told to stop QQing, when to me it seems that the more we find to complain about the greater potential the game has for improvement.

    There are alot of aspects about 1.19 that fill me with hope... and there are a few that just make me wince. I have tremendous respect for the whole dev team, I think they are doing incredible work... but at the same time that doesn't mean their actions are above questioning. They don't get a free ride... and if I don't think a change is justified or if I have concerns over the ramifications of how they are altering certain things I shouldn't have to combat such a large portion of the community just to express those concerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    There seems to be a schism between people who accept every announced change not at the value of the announcement but at some hidden value inherent in the word "change" itself and the people who have an idea of what a successful MMO should be... and can look at FFXIV and see what isn't there.

    It's a bit silly to me. If someone has even the most minor concern about an announced change or a feature already in the game they get labeled as a whiner and are told to stop QQing, when to me it seems that the more we find to complain about the greater potential the game has for improvement.

    There are alot of aspects about 1.19 that fill me with hope... and there are a few that just make me wince. I have tremendous respect for the whole dev team, I think they are doing incredible work... but at the same time that doesn't mean their actions are above questioning. They don't get a free ride... and if I don't think a change is justified or if I have concerns over the ramifications of how they are altering certain things I shouldn't have to combat such a large portion of the community just to express those concerns.
    At least the mods don't delete every single one of your posts and accounts and usernames just because everyone else calls you a troll.

    On topic, though, I agree that there are some good things coming, but many of the good changes are poisoned by simultaneous bad ones. It's as if they don't know how to leave well enough alone. And honestly, the amount of time they expend on making worthless and destructive changes could probably be spent on improvements instead. Change is not always synonymous with improvement.

    And sometimes additions can have ramnifications on other systems which SE doesn't seem to understand. For example, you cannot change crafting by oversimplifying it without also influencing the demand of every item. (Coupled with the increase in localleves, then it's pretty safe to assume economy will stagnate). And another example is the job system. You can't insert jobs as advanced classes and still maintain the functionality of the armory system.

    Sometimes it makes you wonder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    At least the mods don't delete every single one of your posts and accounts and usernames just because everyone else calls you a troll.

    On topic, though, I agree that there are some good things coming, but many of the good changes are poisoned by simultaneous bad ones. It's as if they don't know how to leave well enough alone. And honestly, the amount of time they expend on making worthless and destructive changes could probably be spent on improvements instead. Change is not always synonymous with improvement.

    And sometimes additions can have ramnifications on other systems which SE doesn't seem to understand. For example, you cannot change crafting by oversimplifying it without also influencing the demand of every item. (Coupled with the increase in localleves, then it's pretty safe to assume economy will stagnate). And another example is the job system. You can't insert jobs as advanced classes and still maintain the functionality of the armory system.

    Sometimes it makes you wonder.
    You know this guys is prolly liking his owns posts with another troll account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZachCero View Post
    You know this guys is prolly liking his owns posts with another troll account.
    Wow that's so ironic! Love it.
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    Expecting more than you received is part of the issue this game had at launch, while I do agree its much better than it was at launch, I've learned to hold my enthusiasm until I know what I'm getting.
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    What I see as the future - A niche game that is played by 100k~ people(once PS3 comes out and the dust settles)
    I guess thats a pretty bright future considering where we are now.
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    I have 8 crafts at 50. All I did was watch T.V. and spam standard for easy mode synths. Enjoy leveling those crafts in 1.19 and beyond everyone!

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    Yeah i look forward to the new content but more so i look forward to when the game handles real smooth and responsive.
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    I would welcome greatly these following things :

    >> More battle improvements, I find battle slow and boring. Boring maybe because its not dynamic enough as I imagined it will be. (I enjoyed battle more before update 1,18) - I dont mind autoattack its slow enough with some classes -,- and I dont like standing character

    >> Better or Completely different UI, which will make things easier and not like it is now : click, click, click, click, confirm to do one thing. That includes retainer UI (Horrible thing) and buy and sell, trade UI as well. Party search is useless, confusing and hard to manage. Some skins to UI would be very nice, I find blue windows not suitable for this game.

    >>Less Lags with UI (This is annoying after year)
    And more minor things...

    And these were my complains, these things above are killing maybe wonderful game with so many things that may be happening. It kills all potential :-) that is my opinion people dont throw stones at me.
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    Last edited by Synthesis; 09-10-2011 at 02:11 PM.

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    Having only joined the game about 3 weeks ago I'd had no previous experience in how the game played before a lot of the mechanics were changed, things like auto-attack and suchlike, nor did I have any clue as to what it looked like or played like. I'd tried to play Final Fantasy XI a few times in the past and all it did was confuse me. I have however been a long time fan of Final Fantasy games.

    However when I Joined FFXIV I was looking for an MMO that could whole-heartedly pull me away from my 5 year long Warcraft addiction and put me into a nice, friendly, happy, sociable online game that was unique in aspect and broad in scope, as well as featuring those long-sought-after anime style quirks. I just finally wanted something to get me away from the elitists and terrible, horrible, disgusting, brainless community on that over-hyped pile of [insert profanity here]. The only reason I stuck with Warcraft for so long was there were no other mmo's out there that were enjoyable and had such a vast array of things to do.

    Least to say I am extremely glad that I chose to ignore the bad reviews and rumours this game received and try it out, because it has everything I've always wanted, the linkshell I've joined is full of fun and friendly people, and since the game's only a year old, I know that if it follows suit with FFXI, there's going to be a LOT of new stuff being added for a very long time.

    So in short-term, I'm really looking forward to riding chocobos by the end of this month or some time next month depending on if the patch gets delayed (I really hope not) and I'm looking forward to the Thief job, because I always like sneaky dual-wield dagger characters.

    In long term, I'm looking forward to see if they build on the airship ideals and maybe make linkshell owned customisable airships, I'm REALLY hoping they add a dual-wield gunner class (The one thing I love more than dual-wield daggers XD), and I'm defenitely looking forward to all the new clothing that gets added, as I love to use my alt Ren as a barbie doll for all my new clothing creations

    Also if Mor Dhona is anything to go by, new areas that get added in patches/expansions could be really impressive to see.

    All the game needs is time and patience from it's players, and it'll turn out to be a fantastic game

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    I cant wait for ishgard and garlean empire to be added and new dungeon/content + chocobos and airships!! ya i think by the beginning of the year the game will start to look very attractive to new comers!
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