2.55 Main Scenario Requirement.

[Rendecrow]

I was going to write out a big old post as to why 2.55 is a dumb requirement for heavesward, but I decided to save myself some time and just write a short version of it! lol.

Simply put, the main scenario quests up to 2.0 flow very well with leveling, but the level 50 stuff is very long and tedious. While it is true that if you sit down you can grind it out in 6 hours or so, I feel that people will have less patience for this at expansion time when they want to go to the new zones. As a result I think some players who are working on the questline may get annoyed with this chore, lol. That could make them want to stop playing.

There are two types of players who will be grinding level 50 main scenario quests at expansion time:

Old players who didn't do it: Players like my friend who fate grinded 3 different level 50s is going to have to go back and do it. This is going to be a very frustrating chore for him since he does not like questing. Granted I don't feel to bad for him since he has had plenty of warning, but it still sucks and I wonder if he will continue playing.

New players: The main scenario quest is going to work well for new players up till 2.0. After that the quests are going to be a grind for them. While they will probably add xp to the story quests, I think some new players may become discouraged when they level up to levels 53 or 54 and still can't go in the new zones. Granted everything is "new" to new players, but I have played other MMOs and I know that new players generally want to quest and level in the highest level zones they can. This level 50 story quest gate is going to make a lot of them feel like they are being held back.... and that is not a good thing. I want the game to grow and the last thing I want is for new players to quit because they feel like they can't advance to the new zones.


Anyways, I truly believe that the 2.0 questline is good, but I really think they need to re-evaluate the 2.01 to 2.55 requirement for the new zones.

And before anyone says, "It does not take that long", you are right that it does not.... but...... and a big BUT.... It is going to feel like forever to someone who just wants to walk around the level 51+ zones.


EDIT: Thought Id add before I get any more dumb replies about "making the game easier". This is not about the game being easier. This is about a smooth leveling transition from level 50 to 51 for new players. Right now there are to many level 50 quests in the main Scenario and it won't be a smooth leveling experience for new players. New players are going to feel held back when they are hitting levels 53 to 54 and still on level 50 content. That is the problem.

[StrejdaTom]

Oh, so I actually have to follow some story in (mmo)RPG? What a turnoff! I am going back to F2P www.xxxxxx.com, where story is so generic than no one reads it and I can farm mobs for weeks without reading anything! yaaaaaaay!

Nope, this game is already bending over a lot for people who want everything immediately, no need to bend even more.

[Rendecrow]

Nope, this game is already bending over a lot for people who want everything immediately, no need to bend even more.

You really don't get it. This is not about the game being easier. This is about a smooth leveling transition from level 50 to 51 for new players. Right now there are to many level 50 quests in the main Scenario and it won't be a smooth leveling experience for new players. New players are going to feel held back when they are hitting levels 53 to 54 and still on level 50 content. That is the problem.

[Elim]

Main scenario quests feel like chores to me too. IMO there is too many "get me a flower" "ok get me a flower pot" "ok get me some water" "ok put the flower in the pot" "ok water the flower". They don't appeal to me at all, but they obviously appeal to a great number of players and may be the main reason some people play this game. I know I still play SWTOR purely for the main story.

[Zaft]

That is the problem.

No, it's really not.

[SDaemon]

Very long and tedious? The only overly time consuming parts to the Astral story-line are the dungeons and trials. The content can be done very quickly if you actually sit down and do it.

If someone buys the expansion and wants to walk around in level 51+ zones asap they need to understand that there is a base-game behind this expansion being released.

[SDaemon]

You really don't get it. This is not about the game being easier. This is about a smooth leveling transition from level 50 to 51 for new players. Right now there are to many level 50 quests in the main Scenario and it won't be a smooth leveling experience for new players. New players are going to feel held back when they are hitting levels 53 to 54 and still on level 50 content. That is the problem.

100ish quests where a very large portion are "gather this", "talk to this person" etc etc, yay! 15 quests knocked out in barely 5 minutes!

[Rendecrow]

If someone buys the expansion and wants to walk around in level 51+ zones asap they need to understand that there is a base-game behind this expansion being released.

Yup, and they have already done the base game for 50 odd levels. Now they are forced to run around in level 50 zones while they are hitting levels 53, 54, and 55.... That is a horrible transition.


Am I seriously the only one here able to see the balance issues? Because it is starting to look that way, lol.

[SDaemon]

Yup, and they have already done the base game for 50 odd levels. Now they are forced to run around in level 50 zones while they are hitting levels 53, 54, and 55.... That is a horrible transition.

50 levels that are easily gained with the MS. Your first 50 takes barely any time in MMO standards. You and I currently have no idea how experience will be handled in the Astral story quests. and even if they do get to level 54 from dungeons/trials as the quest themsleves give none, good for them, they've gained 4 levels!

Edit: Would just like to add that the likelihood of them getting 4 levels off the few dungeons and trials they need to do to complete the MS would be insanely low. You would have to grind them mercilessly to do that.

[myahele]

It's honestly no more different that all the quests we had to do in order to progress to the story. Atleast this time (hopefully) they can earn some experience points for whatever job their main is.

It's also possible that they'll increase dungeon xp for <50 dungeons.

Will returning players be disappointed that they can't enter Ishgard? Yes.

But honestly, you can go through 2.1-2.55 fairly quickly anyways.

Additionally, there are plenty of returning players between now and Heavensward