Request for Sight Seeing log

[StrejdaTom]

But dat apkallu!

I actually thought completing the log was fun. I like content like that and the Moogle delivery quests-- relaxing, not about combat or stats, but just about hanging out and experiencing the world.

And still, people ask to nerf it.

[Yumi_umi]

Hopefully they add some for ishgard and 3.0 areas.
Would love to see more the way devs intended it to be seen & read the little description.
Also i hope they add another minion or item like the weather forcast npc jacket lol

[Quesse]

Since the log only pretty much gives information on the location can we please have the weather requirements removed leave time I guess but the weather requirement is too much of a block.

Please don't do this.

[Myrhn]

Here will make your life easyer. http://vistas.explorexiv.com/

[axemtitanium]

Here will make your life easyer. http://vistas.explorexiv.com/

Does not need to be nerfed. Using the above website will tell you the exact minute you need to be at the vista location, even multiple days in advance. There's no excuse anymore for those who want the reward.

[Nalien]

Does not need to be nerfed. Using the above website will tell you the exact minute you need to be at the vista location, even multiple days in advance. There's no excuse anymore for those who want the reward.

What if the reward someone wants from Sightseeing is figuring out the hints and getting the entry, rather than going down a list and camping the weather NPC for a minion?

Is it really so much to ask for the hints to actually, you know, hint at the requirements, rather than omitting them completely? Going down a list to get this done just completely saps the fun out of the content in my opinion.

[axemtitanium]

What if the reward someone wants from Sightseeing is figuring out the hints and getting the entry, rather than going down a list and camping the weather NPC for a minion?

Is it really so much to ask for the hints to actually, you know, hint at the requirements, rather than omitting them completely? Going down a list to get this done just completely saps the fun out of the content in my opinion.

I'm not making any claim about how useful or accurate the hints are at hinting the solution. I am merely responding to OP's complaint that the weathers are too difficult, to which I say that the weather aspect has been completely trivialized by the existence of timers and there's no need to trivialize it further by removing weather requirements entirely.

[sarehptar]

I personally found the sightseeing log to be really fun. It's not something you do overnight. It's something that takes time, so yes, it is a "time sink" but it's also something you have to think about, plan for, and keep in mind when so much of the rest of this game is completely mindless. At first I was "toughing it out" just to get the minion, but soon I found that just visiting the vistas at the right light and weather was a real reward in and of itself. Most of the time the weather and times were picked for good reason, because they add a lot of ambiance. I agree that some don't really impact, like the vistas indoors, but most of the ones outside look great at the time and weather they were set as, and really, like 90% of them have common weather conditions that you can get almost any day. It's only a few rare ones that are tedious. I agree the hints aren't that well-written but what do you want them to do? Literally list out the time, coordinates, correct emote, and correct weather? If that's what you want, just use a guide.

The only "nerf" I would support is counting "thunder" along with the "thunderstorms" for the Buscaron's Druthers vista. That one was a pain in the ass.

[Nalien]

I agree the hints aren't that well-written but what do you want them to do? Literally list out the time, coordinates, correct emote, and correct weather? If that's what you want, just use a guide.

Sure, if I wanted them to literally spell out exactly where, when and how to get the Log entry, I'd use a guide.

I don't want that though. I just want the hints to actually acknowledge the damn requirements in the exact same way they do the location and the odd requirement. Take #36 for example;

"Someone actually lives there? I'll believe it when I meet the man. Still, you'll not find me complaining- it's a fine place to sit down and rest your weary legs for a spell."

From that I can guess;

The location - A seemingly abandoned building.
The emote - Presumable /sit, I don't actually know though.

Time of day and weather though? Absolutely no idea. I have been there multiple times, during multiple windows and weather, done every single emote.

When the vast majority are like this, it stops being fun and starts being frustrating. Figuring out the where and what based off the hint was fun, basically being forced to rely on a guide for the rest is not. If I was going to use a guide, I would have already. Instead I'm going to call this piece of content out on its blatant flaws precisely because it requires a guide. Side content like this shouldn't require a guide, no content ever really should.

[Imoye]

Since the log only pretty much gives information on the location can we please have the weather requirements removed leave time I guess but the weather requirement is too much of a block.

Yup, and while we're at it we should nerf everything that is even remotely challenging, like making every Coil turn oneshottable with Fire III.