[dev1134] Guildleve Revisions

[Kyra]

I want 6 leves every 12 hours minimum. Prefer doing a variety of leves for sp than killing the same mob over and over or crafting that same item over and over. Leves are like mini objectvies to be completed and keep me interested. 4 Every 12 hours is not enough and to be frank 6 every 12 is not enough for me. I want more.

To me this change is a nerf to the hardcore players, I see it as 12 every 36 instead of 16 every 36.

Lol but what the hell, yoshi must be adding some other way to level up in 1.19 thats fun other than leves. im sure he wouldnt gives us lesss leves for no reason without adding something else to the game to make leveling up fun.

[Felis]

To me this change is a nerf to the hardcore players, I see it as 12 every 36 instead of 16 every 36.

Maybe because the leves are for casuals? ^^
Hardcore players get SP Chain

[darkstarpoet1]

Maybe because the leves are for casuals? ^^
Hardcore players get SP Chain

oh really when did they say they were getting crafting and gathering chains?

[Naryl]

oh really when did they say they were getting crafting and gathering chains?

Now you get 8 battle/field leves and 8 local every 36h, after this change you get 4 free slots every 12h, but you are not forced at all to do either battle or craft or whatever you can invest them as you want.

Are you casual and only play hard on weekends? get all the "slots" of the week and burn them down on battle leves to level up your char, or use some on local leves to keep it even.

Are you a hardcore player who plays a lot each day? Use exp party with the added bonus to chains to level up your battle jobs and burn the "slots" as 12 local leves every 36h (that's actualy 4 more than before).

I don't see why ppl complain really. You would have problems if you want to level up DoL jobs as the same pace as a DoH job, since now you can do 8 leves of each kind per 36h, but if you are a hardcore player you have time to invest leveling them in the "proper way", aka get the hell out of the city and farm.

[Felis]

oh really when did they say they were getting crafting and gathering chains?

They have SP scrolls

[darkstarpoet1]

Now you get 8 battle/field leves and 8 local every 36h, after this change you get 4 free slots every 12h, but you are not forced at all to do either battle or craft or whatever you can invest them as you want.

Are you casual and only play hard on weekends? get all the "slots" of the week and burn them down on battle leves to level up your char, or use some on local leves to keep it even.

Are you a hardcore player who plays a lot each day? Use exp party with the added bonus to chains to level up your battle jobs and burn the "slots" as 12 local leves every 36h (that's actualy 4 more than before).

I don't see why ppl complain really. You would have problems if you want to level up DoL jobs as the same pace as a DoH job, since now you can do 8 leves of each kind per 36h, but if you are a hardcore player you have time to invest leveling them in the "proper way", aka get the hell out of the city and farm.

i'm sorry since when did farming get you guild marks? that was what i have stated multiple times this gets rid of the way i have been using leves. 8 local, 4 battle, 4 gathering.

of course you don't see why people are complaining. maybe if you open your eyes you could actually see something.

i'm sure you will love seeing the game dead mon-thurs and only having a population on the weekends. just discussing it yesterday in one of my ls's and we had 10+ say they would stop playing during the week now and get on during the weekend to only do leves.

yes, as i have stated i was glad to see them make those 2 changes(not restricted half crafting half battle, and the saving them when you miss time), but the same thing could have been done with the system in place and saved wasted development time. that change would have made you happy and me happy.

sacrificing is always acceptable when you are the one getting the benefit. in other words it is ok for you because you get the benefit so you can't see why others disagree.

They have SP scrolls

ohhhhhh thank you for reminding me about the scrolls that give you an sp boost for 5k. that was nothing more than you throwing out some snark remark that makes you look intelligent when it has nothing to do with the question asked.

[Mortikhan]

Maybe because the leves are for casuals? ^^
Hardcore players get SP Chain

Small Correction:

Casual Players get leves.
Hardcore players get both.

[Konachibi]

You go on holiday for two weeks.

You add an extra day to your holiday once you get home to recover from jetlag.

You use that entire day to catch up on the large amount of leves you missed.

You catch up with your LS friends that shot ahead of you whilst you weren't playing.

Thinking on it, it's a nice system to promote social playstyles rather than the more hardcore 'play for 12 hours a day, everyday' people. You can sit back, relax, do a few leves, then go and watch Thundercats for a bit without worrying about falling behind everyone else.

So yeah I'll miss my 4 extra leves, but I can see reason for why they're making this change. Besides, it mentioned in it somewhere that when we complete all our leves we can do some kind of repeat leve, if that can be done at a constant then theoretically i can do as many leves as I want to in a day, unless I'm not quite understanding the system right?

[Xenor]

Missing 4 leves per 36 hours is the equivalent of missing one leve cycle per week right now. While I do miss the odd cycle due to trips away they don't average out at a rate of 1 per week. So I don't even see that as a benefit.

[darkstarpoet1]

the good part is i do like the fact you can add up the leves over time til you get time to do them. i also like the fact the restriction between which kind of leves you must pick up is a nice change.

what i am not a fan of is they could have done these same changes with the 16 leves every 36 hours. it was extra work they put in which slowed down some other change they could be taking care of when it was not needed. i will miss doing those 4 extra leves per reset.

those 4 leves can come down to 8-10k in guild marks i could pick up.