[dev1134] Guildleve Revisions

[Konachibi]

I'm pretty sure they mentioned 'rescaling' sp gains for gathering and crafting, I think.

I wonder how the SP chain is gonna work in battling anyways... if I hang around in western la noscea chaining loads of puks together in a constant slaughterous string am I gonna end up getting like, 1000 sp per Puk, or is there some limitation involved?

Either way it's gonna make levelling up my PUG alt a bit more fun to do.

[Mortikhan]

Maybe because the leves are for casuals? ^^
Hardcore players get SP Chain

Small Correction:

Casual Players get leves.
Hardcore players get both.

[captainpicard]

This seems like an unfortunate change really. It just further institutionalizes the leve system. It is going to make high level crafting of no value and seems to me further hurt what little economy there is, since the demand for materials will drop, as a result of the leve's just giving you shards and mats.

Seems like a positive change for people who don't really want to play an MMO where the world is dependent on the players. Seems like another step towards making this a solo game where you can see other people walking around.

[Ilean]

Seems like a positive change for people who don't really want to play an MMO where the world is dependent on the players. Seems like another step towards making this a solo game where you can see other people walking around.

How about we play this for fun? If I wanted deep and complicated interactions I'd play RL in my free time too.

[darkstarpoet1]

Now you get 8 battle/field leves and 8 local every 36h, after this change you get 4 free slots every 12h, but you are not forced at all to do either battle or craft or whatever you can invest them as you want.

Are you casual and only play hard on weekends? get all the "slots" of the week and burn them down on battle leves to level up your char, or use some on local leves to keep it even.

Are you a hardcore player who plays a lot each day? Use exp party with the added bonus to chains to level up your battle jobs and burn the "slots" as 12 local leves every 36h (that's actualy 4 more than before).

I don't see why ppl complain really. You would have problems if you want to level up DoL jobs as the same pace as a DoH job, since now you can do 8 leves of each kind per 36h, but if you are a hardcore player you have time to invest leveling them in the "proper way", aka get the hell out of the city and farm.

i'm sorry since when did farming get you guild marks? that was what i have stated multiple times this gets rid of the way i have been using leves. 8 local, 4 battle, 4 gathering.

of course you don't see why people are complaining. maybe if you open your eyes you could actually see something.

i'm sure you will love seeing the game dead mon-thurs and only having a population on the weekends. just discussing it yesterday in one of my ls's and we had 10+ say they would stop playing during the week now and get on during the weekend to only do leves.

yes, as i have stated i was glad to see them make those 2 changes(not restricted half crafting half battle, and the saving them when you miss time), but the same thing could have been done with the system in place and saved wasted development time. that change would have made you happy and me happy.

sacrificing is always acceptable when you are the one getting the benefit. in other words it is ok for you because you get the benefit so you can't see why others disagree.

They have SP scrolls

ohhhhhh thank you for reminding me about the scrolls that give you an sp boost for 5k. that was nothing more than you throwing out some snark remark that makes you look intelligent when it has nothing to do with the question asked.

[Holland]

i'm sure you will love seeing the game dead mon-thurs and only having a population on the weekends. just discussing it yesterday in one of my ls's and we had 10+ say they would stop playing during the week now and get on during the weekend to only do leves.

You keep talking as if there will be nothing else to do besides Leves. If that was the case I would agree with you but seeing how Leves are no longer a central part of FFXIV and new central content will take its place, how can you make that claim?

[Arcell]

You keep talking as if there will be nothing else to do besides Leves. If that was the case I would agree with you but seeing how Leves are no longer a central part of FFXIV and new central content will take its place, how can you make that claim?

For those hardcore players battle leves may not even be worth it anymore. Just do SP chain groups for combat classes and local leves for crafting.

[Konachibi]

*turn the tune of Karma Chameleon*

Leve leveleveleveleveeeeee systeeeeeeem
You come and goooooo
you come and gooOOooo
If levelling were easy my rank would be at fifty
Want to be fiftyyyyy
So long to fiftyyyyyYYYYyy

[Xenor]

Battle leves are already horrible SP unless you have guardian's aspect, I can't say I'll miss them.

[darkstarpoet1]

You keep talking as if there will be nothing else to do besides Leves. If that was the case I would agree with you but seeing how Leves are no longer a central part of FFXIV and new central content will take its place, how can you make that claim?

because whether you like to believe it or not there's still quite a few people that come on during the week to only do their leves then sign out. they are active during the weekend only. we had at least 10 tell us in one ls that they would stop the weekday playing and start only doing leves on the weekends. if you do 40+ leves in a day what do you think the chances are you will do anything other than that and then log out?

i didn't make the claim. i relayed what has been said in the ls we were discussing the changes in.