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[DragonSlayer45]

Adjustments to old content really don't invalidate achievements imo. Or at least they really shouldn't.

No, it doesn't. Hey, if you beat T9 pre or post Echo, its still an accomplishment. No one is disputing that. However, that's not the point here. Its that Steps itself wasn't a hard fight by any stretch of the imagination, and it was more on the community making it hard. All of Steps problems would have vanished if people were patient, took an effort to teach new players the fight as opposed to "Steps!? /ragequit"

And I'm not saying there are players out there that aren't bad, but if they don't make an effort to better themselves now, they are in for a rude awakening somewhere down the line when we get another scenario like Steps.

[Spiritreaver1217]

Fair points

I just think its disingenuous for a small portion of the game's playerbase to lay future issues with bad players on SoF being more clear friendly.

Call me w/e you like(not you DragonSlayer45, in general), but i could not care less if player X, Y, or Z became a better player after doing a piece of content. Eventually content will adjusted to a level that makes it accessible to the largest %age of that game's playerbase. And without fail the largest group is NOT gonna be the highest performing segment, it is gonna be everyone else-the good, the middling, the bad, and the truly horrible. The adjustments to SoF and other past changes go along with my take.

As to trying to make 'lesser' players into 'better' ones, that's not gonna happen. Players that want to improve will strive to do so. Those that don't care to-for w/e reason-won't. Changes to content are just that, changes to content; they aren't changes to to the players.