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[Iromi]

Are they ever gonna stop nerfing stuff? All it does it breed more bad players...

Really hoping heavensward is challenging and stays that way. :/

[Songi]

Are they ever gonna stop nerfing stuff? All it does it breed more bad players...

Really hoping heavensward is challenging and stays that way. :/

Exactly. I fail to see how Alexander is going to be any more challenging than any rendition of Coil at this point. Please prove me wrong SE! (I bet you won't).

[Wildsprite]

Exactly. I fail to see how Alexander is going to be any more challenging than any rendition of Coil at this point. Please prove me wrong SE! (I bet you won't).

I highly doubt Alexander normal will be more difficult because they made it sound like normal would be on par with the Crystal Tower raids(though I may have misunderstood). so I suspect you will have to wait and see how hard mode is.

[Ultimatecalibur]

I highly doubt Alexander normal will be more difficult because they made it sound like normal would be on par with the Crystal Tower raids(though I may have misunderstood). so I suspect you will have to wait and see how hard mode is.

From what I have read and heard, Alexander (NM is going to be around Coil with full echo and appropriate gear (i.e. i80 to i90 BCoB, i100 to i110 SCoB, i120 to i130 FCoB) in difficulty and have its world first clear happen within 1 or 2 days of release.

[Wildsprite]

From what I have read and heard, Alexander (NM is going to be around Coil with full echo and appropriate gear (i.e. i80 to i90 BCoB, i100 to i110 SCoB, i120 to i130 FCoB) in difficulty and have its world first clear happen within 1 or 2 days of release.

if that's the case they can keep it. I didn't like coil before the echo, I still don't like it after the echo. I don't like memory game raids pretending to be endgame. till they stop the memory game garbage and start giving us more dynamic fights as far as I'm concerned we don't have real endgame.

[Ashkendor]

Are they ever gonna stop nerfing stuff? All it does it breed more bad players...

Really hoping heavensward is challenging and stays that way. :/

If you're in a vertical progression MMO and expecting content to not get nerfed as time passes, I'm not quite sure what to tell you. I'm honestly sort of surprised that people are surprised about SoF getting nerfed. I know I've landed in it several times for trial roulette and ended up leaving because it was an unmitigated disaster. When one or two people not doing their jobs can basically hold 6-7 other players hostage for 15-20 minutes per attempt, something really does need to be changed. I honestly think that a way to reset the trial would've been a better idea (for those times you know you're gonna fail), but eh this might be workable; I'll jump into a few tomorrow and see.

[RyuDragnier]

If you're in a vertical progression MMO and expecting content to not get nerfed as time passes, I'm not quite sure what to tell you. I'm honestly sort of surprised that people are surprised about SoF getting nerfed. I know I've landed in it several times for trial roulette and ended up leaving because it was an unmitigated disaster. When one or two people not doing their jobs can basically hold 6-7 other players hostage for 15-20 minutes per attempt, something really does need to be changed. I honestly think that a way to reset the trial would've been a better idea (for those times you know you're gonna fail), but eh this works too.

That actually happens all the time in the tower raids, so I don't think that's a proper excuse, especially since the towers haven't been nerfed.

[Ashkendor]

That actually happens all the time in the tower raids, so I don't think that's a proper excuse, especially since the towers haven't been nerfed.

Tower raids don't take 15-20 minutes per attempt on a boss. You try, you wipe, you try again.

SoF didn't even give you the option of the wipe.

[RyuDragnier]

Tower raids don't take 15-20 minutes per attempt on a boss. You try, you wipe, you try again.

SoF didn't even give you the option of the wipe.

That I agree with. They really only needed a wipe = instance reset thing, so at least it wouldn't take so long for the reset.

[Wildsprite]

That actually happens all the time in the tower raids, so I don't think that's a proper excuse, especially since the towers haven't been nerfed.

they said they plan to adjust the tower raids after Heavensward release sometime. honestly I'm a little scared to see what they might do to the tower raids cause steps didnt need the nerf it got.

Tower raids don't take 15-20 minutes per attempt on a boss. You try, you wipe, you try again.

SoF didn't even give you the option of the wipe.

That I agree with. They really only needed a wipe = instance reset thing, so at least it wouldn't take so long for the reset.

it needed a way to reset on full wipe like you all mention.