Patch Notes are up!

[RyuDragnier]

Don't forget about Pharos Sirius. That was a hoot.

I was happy the few times I beat it before the nerf. Had another DPS and a tank who knew what they were doing (I was with my WHM friend), and we got through the place with little to no problems simply because we worked together and had decent to great skill with our classes. I miss that Pharos Sirius, it gave us a challenge we desperately needed...a shame the loot was crap then though. Plus it feels like the Chrysler Building from Parasite Eve, which gave it a nice boost to my liking.

[SpookyGhost]

I remember those days, where a bad DPS could prevent completion of AK, with decent barely getting you past him and good on up making him easy. Back when skill mattered greatly, back when players actually learned how to play the game instead of QQ for nerfs about everything.

You could literally zerg the wall down 99% of the time. Caster LB made the bees a joke. Demon Wall was never difficult. kbye

[Yshnal]

You could literally zerg the wall down 99% of the time. Caster LB made the bees a joke. Demon Wall was never difficult. kbye

During 2.0 before everyone was overgeared? I seriously doubt that you zerged it without a good premade. After that? Yes, it was possible, and it was fun to do it as a revenge on the damn wall haha. But I doubt that the post that you quoted was talking about it when everyone and their mother was i70+. It's not that it was super hard either, but was nerfed anyway, and that was the point. Like Pharos, like SoF now, and like everything.

And it doesn't matter if there's a loot reward or not. Some people play the game because they enjoy it, because they get fun out of playing something that doesn't make you fall asleep, and not because of "ph4t l00tz" that will be obsolete in a couple of months. Fun that they don't get if everything is a cakewalk, if the few fun things get unilaterally nerfed because some people can't stand that some content requires a little bit of their precious time. They are not even asking for everything to be like Coil pre-nerf, but to have something that required you to stay awake, like pre-nerf Demon Wall, Pharos Sirius, etc.

What they're accomplishing with these nerfs is that people will keep expecting to faceroll everything in 2 minutes. And that's what's sad about this. Because SoF wasn't hard, and I doubt that no one would have had a problem with it if it was released back in 2.0. But nowadays everyone is in a hurry, expecting speedruns, ignoring most fight mechanics and bruteforcing them, looking up everyone's dps (even tank's) for the most easier content, having little to no patience with new players, etc. That's the direction where you want to keep going?

[Radacci]

We're not allowed to have anything remotely "difficult" in this game, aren't we?

SoF wasn't even difficult, so that makes the future rather bleak. There wont be anything challenging outside of raids.

[dice137]

SoF wasn't even difficult, so that makes the future rather bleak. There wont be anything challenging outside of raids.

^This. SoF getting nerfed is actually sadder than the Pharos Sirius nerf. What's next? A Chrysalis nerf? SE is leaning towards a design philosophy I really don't care for.

I have a way to make content harder for everyone.

Queue up for content with the lowest ilvl requirement. That'll keep your content difficult

Not entirely sure if you're kidding or not? If people need to come up with their own ways to manually make content harder, then said content is barely viable and devs should be addressing that -- not players.

[KisaiTenshi]

^This. SoF getting nerfed is actually sadder than the Pharos Sirius nerf. What's next? A Chrysalis nerf? SE is leaning towards a design philosophy I really don't care for.



Not entirely sure if you're kidding or not? If people need to come up with their own ways to manually make content harder, then said content is barely viable and devs should be addressing that -- not players.

All they need to do is tighten down the ilevel sync for most content. It's way too easy when -EVERYONE-but-one- has overgeared equipment. The solution there is to use a lighter ilevel-sync when 25% of the players don't hit the sync, and use a heavier ilevel sync when all players are over-geared.

And ilevelsync the mainstream scenario or put the difficulty back up to release levels. It wasn't hard at release, and everyone spamming it had only ilevel 70 gear.

Anyway... while I won't care too much in the grand scheme of things if they leave the nerf intact, I'd rather nerfs be addressed through "the echo" rather than making every content a faceroll by simply having the poetics gear.

[Dualblade]

Interesting...I hope they get wings. Pegasus ponies, away!

[Musashidon]

[silentwindfr]

step of faith is not difficult, but the trouble is people ignoring what they have to do.... most of the melee dps refuse to do the cannon or focus the boss when you still have add up... without forget the tank that don't group the add below the boss for allows the cannon to dps the boss+add.

the fight wasn't hard... simply people didn't want to play differently.

[Dualblade]

step of faith is not difficult, but the trouble is people ignoring what they have to do.... most of the melee dps refuse to do the cannon or focus the boss when you still have add up... without forget the tank that don't group the add below the boss for allows the cannon to dps the boss+add.

the fight wasn't hard... simply people didn't want to play differently.

To be fair you shouldn't have to attack the adds as DPS in this fight. Cannons should pretty much kill them off, and the current ones go away with the destruction of each barrier. Now just not wanting to do cannons isn't a good call (though ideally the OT and a healer should be on it, can't always have that.)