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    Arrius's Avatar
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadiantOkami View Post
    We're not allowed to have anything remotely "difficult" in this game, aren't we?
    Considering it is a Main Story Trial, it would have been changed one way or another. People would like to blaze through the MSQ once the expansion hits and they make new characters,
    with SoF being the final stepping stone which they don't want to trip over.
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    Allison Sorikai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    Considering it is a Main Story Trial, it would have been changed one way or another.
    So... because its main story, and effectively the "final boss" before the expansion, its not supposed to be difficult? I can't quite grasp the logic here. Maybe I'm the only one, but I love struggling against bosses because the moment you actually beat them, it makes the accomplishment that much more rewarding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadiantOkami View Post
    So... because its main story, and effectively the "final boss" before the expansion, its not supposed to be difficult? I can't quite grasp the logic here. Maybe I'm the only one, but I love struggling against bosses because the moment you actually beat them, it makes the accomplishment that much more rewarding.
    For existing ones, maybe. But I am not so cheery when it comes on making a new character and I need go through ALL of the pre-expansion MSQ content again in order to reach the new stuff.
    If SE is throwing me a bone along the way with balance changes, then I gladly will accept them.
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    Justin Tymes
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadiantOkami View Post
    So... because its main story, and effectively the "final boss" before the expansion, its not supposed to be difficult? I can't quite grasp the logic here. Maybe I'm the only one, but I love struggling against bosses because the moment you actually beat them, it makes the accomplishment that much more rewarding.
    That "reward" after wiping multiple times and taking up to 20 minutes each time was actually inferior to the now face-roll Sycrus Tower run. Something needed to be done to stop end-game players from refusing to even attempt the Duty.

    Although this nerf doesn't fix the core issue. Wipes will still happen and it will take about minutes to attempt another run.
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    Considering it is a Main Story Trial, it would have been changed one way or another. People would like to blaze through the MSQ once the expansion hits and they make new characters,
    with SoF being the final stepping stone which they don't want to trip over.
    Hey! Quit using logic and and stop trying to understand the repercussions of having old content cockblock people years from now when Heavensward is old news!

    PS: You're 100% correct.
    (0)
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Akari Legaia
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadiantOkami View Post
    We're not allowed to have anything remotely "difficult" in this game, aren't we?
    It all started with Demon Wall and the bees (gnats)...
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Songi View Post
    It all started with Demon Wall and the bees (gnats)...
    I remember those days, where a bad DPS could prevent completion of AK, with decent barely getting you past him and good on up making him easy. Back when skill mattered greatly, back when players actually learned how to play the game instead of QQ for nerfs about everything.
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    Nep Nep
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I remember those days, where a bad DPS could prevent completion of AK, with decent barely getting you past him and good on up making him easy. Back when skill mattered greatly, back when players actually learned how to play the game instead of QQ for nerfs about everything.
    Them days of Darklight armor and when Titan Hard mode scared the hell out of folks. xD I'll never forget the atmosphere of stepping in there the first time for my relic. xD
    ah the memories.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nep_Nep View Post
    Them days of Darklight armor and when Titan Hard mode scared the hell out of folks. xD I'll never forget the atmosphere of stepping in there the first time for my relic. xD
    ah the memories.
    Titan HM destroyed me back then due to not having a hardwired internet. I actually miss those days, people were good then and went out of their way to help other players. Now though...you see that far less.
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    Kyrie Targaryen
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I remember those days, where a bad DPS could prevent completion of AK, with decent barely getting you past him and good on up making him easy. Back when skill mattered greatly, back when players actually learned how to play the game instead of QQ for nerfs about everything.
    Don't forget about Pharos Sirius. That was a hoot.
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