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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    It was probably more trouble to add the reset than it was to nerf the encounter, since we don't have a manual reset in any other encounter in the game. Lowering damage values is much more simple.
    All they really needed to do though, was increase the Tomestone rewards (15/7? Really?) and slap it in the Main Scenario Roulette. The issue was people abandoning it due to it honestly not being worth doing even if everything goes perfectly. Most of the nerfs we actually got were fine as well actually, but seemingly halving Vishaps HP is just beyond overkill... Vishap is effectively just a FATE boss now, you can ignore the mechanics and clear him with plenty of time, you can do the mechanics and do it faster. Either way the encounter has lost any sense of tension which made it fun and relevant to the story.
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    All they really needed to do though, was increase the Tomestone rewards (15/7? Really?) and slap it in the Main Scenario Roulette. The issue was people abandoning it due to it honestly not being worth doing even if everything goes perfectly. Most of the nerfs we actually got were fine as well actually, but seemingly halving Vishaps HP is just beyond overkill... Vishap is effectively just a FATE boss now, you can ignore the mechanics and clear him with plenty of time, you can do the mechanics and do it faster. Either way the encounter has lost any sense of tension which made it fun and relevant to the story.
    make the boss have a chance to drop a Pet and people would flood SoF again.
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    Last edited by Evergrey; 05-12-2015 at 09:05 PM.

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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    They could have just implemented the vote reset so ppl wouldn't QQ about it being nerfed to the floor.
    See this is what SE likes to do lol
    And now ppl will also be disappointed when they see the news for headstart of new relic in 3.0.
    Surprises me that se didn't add a reset in all those nerfs.
    I have not seen a "reset" option myself in FFXIV. It could just be that I have yet to enter a duty that has it, or it doesn't exist. In that case SE would have to create a whole new system and run tests and implement it in a way so it wont cause problems. Easier to just nerf it honestly.
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    Adam Fylrmyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    I have not seen a "reset" option myself in FFXIV. It could just be that I have yet to enter a duty that has it, or it doesn't exist. In that case SE would have to create a whole new system and run tests and implement it in a way so it wont cause problems. Easier to just nerf it honestly.
    Maybe they should make it that if everyone stays on the ground and nobody releases that the game registers it as a fail and resets the instance? Iunno, just spouting out ideas.
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamFyi View Post
    Maybe they should make it that if everyone stays on the ground and nobody releases that the game registers it as a fail and resets the instance? Iunno, just spouting out ideas.
    Would still need coding as nothing at this moment tells the game when it would be a good time to reset.
    Normally a duty resets as the Boss doesn't have anyone to fight. But in Steps of Faith the boss ignores everyone and is after the Gate itself. So untill the gate (normally the players) is dead nothing tells it to reset.

    That's how I see it anyways. I got no wisdom of how coding and programing works.
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    Last edited by Evergrey; 05-12-2015 at 09:05 PM.

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    ShizumiNeko's Avatar
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    Shizumi Aoki
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    Tonberry
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    aww, the nerf to steps of fate I like how it was before but a lot of people complained about it so this needed to happen so hopefully people stop rage quitting from it, maybe the will make a hard mode or something for it to make it harder again but anyway ^-^ mean I can play it more with out people leaving.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Or make it drop i110 unweathered gear. All the fight needed was a reason to be replayed.
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    Ragnus Ironhand
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    I guess Steps will be faceroll, mechanics-ignoring content now? That weakening of the cannon explosion is unnecessary as well, as it gives people the impression that they can -- and should -- stand there and eat a detonation to maximize damage output.
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    Bad players throw up your arms and REJOICE
    For content barely a month old has been nerfed because you cannot fire a cannon
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    U'semih Gah
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    Sagittarius
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    People are this surprised and angered by a fight that is supposed to be winnable by a team of item level 90 players being nerfed? I am sure there will be a hard mode for the difficult fight seekers later on..

    Yay my girlfriend won't quit the game because of people screaming at her out of frustration at losing when she is doing everything she is supposed to and we can actually /get/ to the expansion because less people will drop the fight!

    Wait.. oh no the horror, they are making stuff winnable for people who are not hardcore beast mode gamers, shame on them!

    More importantly.. Odin mount theme update, that is so awesome i will /never dismount again/
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    Last edited by Aryalandi; 05-12-2015 at 09:22 PM.

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