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  1. #181
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    Yshnal's Avatar
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    Nera Mistdancer
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Every time I DF'd it, which was every time. All I had to do was explain not to touch the bees. The only point where you couldn't zerg the Wall was in full AF1 w/ Ifrit weapon... maybe, but I only say that because I didn't try it at that point.

    How 2 zerg: grab bees -> Sentinel + Rampart -> Stun one of the AOEs, Hallowed the other (avoids push/AOE, if Hallowed isn't up you can Tempered Will and manually avoid it) -> other CDs -> Hit the boss a lot.

    Then again, I also explained how to avoid the AOEs before the pull so 9 times out of 10 no one fell off.

    Anyway, nerfs are whatever. 4man dungeons are casual content for everyone, making them unnecessarily difficult is pointless. It's the same with raid content, which is why that's being addressed. Devs don't want to spend all that money on creating new assets for a dungeon that will only be passed by a select group of people. PS is a beautiful dungeon and I know a lot of people who couldn't even make it past the first boss before the nerf. There's a very specific reason why the hardest (challenging) content is a harder version of stuff with the same assets, only changing the mechanics (EX primals, Savage SCoB, and Savage Alexander).
    I know how to zerg it and when it started to be easily doable. Read what you didn't quote u.u

    And the issue here is that it wasn't hard. At all. SoF mechanics were as basic as they could be, same as the Demon Wall back in the day, Pharos, etc. But if people enjoy facerolling it ignoring everything, more power to them I guess.
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  2. #182
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    Nagoto's Avatar
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    Nagoto Netherfrost
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Honestly - the Steps nerf isn't that big of a deal. At this point so many people still need to clear story to assess 3.0+ - it would be a bit silly to leave it at its current "Difficulty".

    I'm not saying it's hard by any means! Just that most people who were going to clear it probably cleared it already, and outside of roulette which, come on we don't do for the challenge - we don't have a need to go back to Steps.


    At least I haven't found a reason. =P
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  3. #183
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    Evergrey's Avatar
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazo View Post
    to people that leaved when roulette was SoF or didn't even tryed to do roulette because of SoF... you don't have the right to make fun/complain about the nerfs, period

    everyone else, please continue
    I agree. If more people actually stayed and helped out less people would be stuck and there would be less reason to nerf it. Atleast to this degree.
    I've been in WoD runs (when it still was new) where when we wiped on the first boss once people started to cast abandon duty and complaining in the chat. But with some extra effort on explaining the fights and let people learn them we finished WoD. We didn't even wipe again untill last boss, once.
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    Last edited by Evergrey; 05-12-2015 at 09:59 PM.

  4. #184
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    You guys really need to step it up and learn how to communicate.
    It didn't happen in beta..
    It didn't happen in 1.0.
    It's not going to happen anytime soon.
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  5. #185
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    Mercutial Zenos
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    Brynhildr
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    All this weeping and gnashing of teeth over an instance that most people see or enter once every blue moon??? Might as well complain about nerfing Battle of Big Bridge.

    Interestingly, no one seems to be up in arms about the FCOB echo. So much for all raiders being "elitists". Appears the more casual player base is demonstrating this much lamented attitude over SOF. Oh, the irony...
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  6. #186
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Lolz . . . 19 pages of people complaining about Steps.

    On another note, has anyone listened to the new primal mount music? I'm excited to hear it later!
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  7. #187
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    Ecks Grimoirath
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    Damn.. I might just have to start getting off my butt to farm those primal mounts now.

    Also, yeah.. I don't get the complaints about the Steps of Faith nerf either. Everybody who was already level 50 and even somewhat decently geared got it finished within the first week of 2.55 if not the first day.

    I literally know nobody that hasn't completed Steps of Faith by today that had already been caught up in the story when 2.55 happened.

    The only people having problems are newer players that I know of and it's mostly because people A) Don't talk and/or listen, or B) Drop out immediately upon queing in.

    If you are someone who has actually been struggling to complete this trial since 2.55, then you needed this nerf apparently and that's why they did it. Plus hell, there's only a bit more than a month left til the expansion. I doubt they want to exclude players from being able to participate in it.

    If you are a player that can't beat Steps of Faith even after this nerf, then wow...... um... good luck and keep trying. >_>;;
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    Last edited by Ecks007; 05-12-2015 at 09:55 PM.

  8. #188
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    I know how to zerg it and when it started to be easily doable. Read what you didn't quote u.u
    It was easily doable far before full i70. Random AK/WP pieces was enough. People were just very bad back in 2.0 so it seemed like the only way to zerg DW was with more gear. It's like how SE didn't think that players would use Hallowed in T1 lol

    Anyway, yes, DW/AK wasn't hard and neither was SoF - but for a fight intended to be Duty Finder'd and beaten, you have to tune it to the majority. I assume SE is smart enough to look at clear rates for SoF before nerfing it, so I can only guess that SoF clear rates are pretty abysmal. When a piece of content is gating people from entering the expansion that they're going to pay money for, it makes sense to make it less difficult than it was. If future expansions aren't gated by story then they can keep story fights more difficult, but because you literally can't play the thing you paid for without beating a fight from something else you paid for... well, it has to be easier/faceroll.

    It's not like SoF matters in the long/short run or drops anything, idk why everyone's heated over it. People complained about Leviathan being faceroll easy for like... a day, and Ramuh + Shiva weren't even talked about. Does everyone just want to complain to seem like a ~*HxC*~ gamer? If so, why are you people playing Baby's First MMO? So weird.
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  9. #189
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    Dar'sho Lycaone
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 60
    WELP did SoF 2 times post nerf, second PUG group somehow managed to wipe by letting Vishap get to the end.

    SoF will be forever known as "Loss of Faith" to me.
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    Last edited by Darsho; 05-12-2015 at 09:59 PM.

  10. #190
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    Red Cork
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    Summoner Lv 70
    So how "nerfed" is it? Has anyone tried the newest version of the fight?
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    "Fun comes first. If it isn't fun, you're doing it wrong." -Naoki Yoshida

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