Patch Notes are up!

[sarehptar]

Let's not forget what SE considers a nerf. Vishap had a LOT of HP (can't find the exact amount, surprised that's not listed somewhere) and there were quite a few times we lost with him at 1-2%. Shaving off a few thousand HP would have prevented those losses.

There were also some problems with UI in this fight. One player who used a controller said she couldn't run canons because she'd get locked in and "stuck" on the canon controls and couldn't run away when Vishap started blasting the canons, so she'd invariably die.

^ This. Although I can do the cannons as a PS4 player, there is a noticeable delay when trying to disengage from the cannon, so I did get hit by the explosions of the cannons at first until I learned to account for this, and yes, this did cause a wipe or two. When I cleared the first time, it was literally down to seconds there at the end, with Vishap at the last ward, so I agree, even shaving off 1-2% should be helpful.

Mostly to people complaining, it's kind of ridiculous to complain. You cleared it before the nerf; you got your (tiny) challenge. Now when you get slotted into Steps on trial roulette, you won't feel obligated to abandon anymore. Win/win. It's not like nerfing the main scenario is going to profoundly affect your raiding you know...

[KarstenS]

One player who used a controller said she couldn't run canons because she'd get locked in and "stuck" on

Whats about reading the manual for basic game controls?

There is one magic button to press. Mostly it is used for Abort/Return.

[Melinabean0]

Whats about reading the manual for basic game controls?

There is one magic button to press. Mostly it is used for Abort/Return.

Well, to be fair, there is a delay after you press that "magical button," which I heard was only a problem for controller users. I had the delay when playing on PS4, and did learn to accommodate for that fact after I got hit by one of the cannons the first time. Now, I don't play on PC at all so I can't say for sure whether that problem is indeed only on controllers, or even if it is all controller users, but yeah. There can be a delay where you are "stuck" temporarily, but it's more just something you need to adjust for rather than "I can't do cannons at all because of this." At least, it was that way for me.

[AkashiXI]

You guys cry way more than the casuals you complain about. Vocal minorities and their entitlements

[Spiritreaver1217]

to people that leaved when roulette was SoF or didn't even tryed to do roulette because of SoF... you don't have the right to make fun/complain about the nerfs, period

everyone else, please continue

^--I don't think this can be emphasized enough.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

just like with the coil echo, even with the boosted help a bad player is still going to be bad. I fail to see how this nerf is going to be a disaster

[nimnim]

I wonder how many had success with a full group of people who were ilvl90, as the requirement, and not above who didn't have problems if everything didn't go perfectly. I was finally able to clear it post nerf on my first attempt. I was busy the first week so I didn't have time to get in on the initial rush, no problem with that, but I'm a dps and solo queuing into df during the dead hours (5 am est after I get out of work) leads to easily 40 minute queues. I got tired of waiting that long to have the group fall apart after the first or second attempt, even with good communication, so it was a nice to be able to get through it, but I was able to still see that if one of the cannons weren't manned and the DS was missed more than once the group wouldn't succeed without overgeared people. For an ilvl 90 group this is good as they don't need to be perfect but they can still screw up and fail.

[Aeliott]

So they nerfed it in terms of enemy HP and damage, but you still have to communicate with your team - still have to use the cannons / dragonslayer / snares effectively? Good! I know it's frustrating having some players who just refuse to listen, but that shouldn't have to result in a faceroll story. Which up until steps almost entirely holds true except maybe for those whopping 2 mechanics in Chrysalis. The HP reductions should give a bit more wiggle room, because in my experience there's almost always a wipe or 2 for new groups as they figure out exactly what needs doing - but HOPEFULLY this doesn't dissuade them from more fights that encourage thinking and co-operation. We perhaps have all previous story content to blame for why some people are too lazy to do anything other smack the boss and dodge aoes. But that doesn't mean it has to continue for the rest of the game's lifespan.

Steps isn't even complex at all. But perhaps there need to be clearer instructions or something? Sometimes I completely miss those text pop-ups mid-fight even though they get added to the chat log. That happened to me a lot during class / job quests, maybe it's just me but I don't find it very noticeable. Voice acting would be a major boon there. All the same, communication still wins. It may as well not be an MMO if people refuse to co-operate.