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  1. #1
    Player
    Cyrus-Wallace's Avatar
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    Lucille Wallace
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Lolz . . . 19 pages of people complaining about Steps.

    On another note, has anyone listened to the new primal mount music? I'm excited to hear it later!
    I just tested them out. They're neat! Shiva or Leviathan for example, have the second part of their theme. Sleipnir has the FATE/trial theme. Both Garuda and Ifrit have their complete themes. I can't tell Titan, I bet it's the final phase's theme. I don't have it. ;_; I wish the Nighmare had its own theme though.
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    Ecks007's Avatar
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    Ecks Grimoirath
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Damn.. I might just have to start getting off my butt to farm those primal mounts now.

    Also, yeah.. I don't get the complaints about the Steps of Faith nerf either. Everybody who was already level 50 and even somewhat decently geared got it finished within the first week of 2.55 if not the first day.

    I literally know nobody that hasn't completed Steps of Faith by today that had already been caught up in the story when 2.55 happened.

    The only people having problems are newer players that I know of and it's mostly because people A) Don't talk and/or listen, or B) Drop out immediately upon queing in.

    If you are someone who has actually been struggling to complete this trial since 2.55, then you needed this nerf apparently and that's why they did it. Plus hell, there's only a bit more than a month left til the expansion. I doubt they want to exclude players from being able to participate in it.

    If you are a player that can't beat Steps of Faith even after this nerf, then wow...... um... good luck and keep trying. >_>;;
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    Last edited by Ecks007; 05-12-2015 at 09:55 PM.

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    Darsho's Avatar
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    Dar'sho Lycaone
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    Hyperion
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    WELP did SoF 2 times post nerf, second PUG group somehow managed to wipe by letting Vishap get to the end.

    SoF will be forever known as "Loss of Faith" to me.
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    Last edited by Darsho; 05-12-2015 at 09:59 PM.

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    Vaer's Avatar
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darsho View Post
    WELP did SoF 2 times post nerf, second PUG group somehow managed to wipe by letting Vishap get to the end.

    SoF will be forever known as "Loss of Faith" to me.
    Patch 2.58 Notes

    Steps of Faith has been adjusted as follows:
    • Vishap now turns around when he reaches the final gate and heads back to the entrance.
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    DarkDedede's Avatar
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    Red Cork
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 70
    So how "nerfed" is it? Has anyone tried the newest version of the fight?
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    "Fun comes first. If it isn't fun, you're doing it wrong." -Naoki Yoshida

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    Mugiawara's Avatar
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkDedede View Post
    So how "nerfed" is it? Has anyone tried the newest version of the fight?
    Look at the post above yours.
    Yay people are still bad. It's not the HP and crap, it's PEOPLE not knowing how to communicate.
    You can't only nerf stuff without somehow magically buffing the people too.
    When I come home I'm going to try my hand at DF too and see how it works.
    If anything, there should of been multiple SoF Party Finders going instead of people
    constantly trying to do in Derpy Finder. Coulda made friends and worked together within your server.
    So far I keep hearing DF Horror Stories...well whatta expect? Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    Look at the post above yours.
    So I'm guessing it still can't be "face-rolled," and people running around like chickens still accomplish the same results.
    I suppose that also means that a vast majority of the nerf complaints are completely pointless.
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    Dar'sho Lycaone
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkDedede View Post
    So I'm guessing it still can't be "face-rolled," and people running around like chickens still accomplish the same results.
    I suppose that also means that a vast majority of the nerf complaints are completely pointless.
    I wouldn't say pointless, it is definitely WAY easier. But with new people in the group everyone needs to be clear on what they're doing or it'll still wind up a catastrophe, or at least close to one now that it's nerfed.
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    Celie Lothaire
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    Maduin
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkDedede View Post
    So I'm guessing it still can't be "face-rolled," and people running around like chickens still accomplish the same results.
    Pretty much.

    Just finished a run of it about 15 minutes ago - the biggest and most obvious change was the lowering of Vishap's health pool. We had him down about the time he was reaching the third Dragonkiller but after the explosive barrels, with no LB3, with a mix of more geared and at the requirement players.

    The next biggest difference I noticed was the damage reduction and the result of that - with most adds not quite the threat they were before (turtle aoe took off maybe 50% of my health) it's easier to stay alive in general the whole through. Getting stepped on could still take someone out if they are less than 75% health though.

    Missing the snares/DKs or running around like chickens could still lead to wipes, but it more forgiving overall.
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Let's not forget what SE considers a nerf. Vishap had a LOT of HP (can't find the exact amount, surprised that's not listed somewhere) and there were quite a few times we lost with him at 1-2%. Shaving off a few thousand HP would have prevented those losses.

    There were also some problems with UI in this fight. One player who used a controller said she couldn't run canons because she'd get locked in and "stuck" on the canon controls and couldn't run away when Vishap started blasting the canons, so she'd invariably die. One guy running the towers missed the first one every time because he wasn't able to see the red ring on the ground.
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